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February 11 @ 1:27pm
For genealogy page like this autosomal DNA is the way to go. Family Finder of FTDNA autosomal is for this group the best way to go. One can go back many generations with it; https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Rowell-Wheeler-autosomal-link.jpg For genealogy, and not being someones ‘lab rat’, all needed about 37 markers and about 3 SNP https://ggi2013.blogspot.com/2017/10/james-irvine-speaker-profile.html James M. Irvine FTDNA admin of Clan Irwin. “With a combination of diligence, intuition, peer guidance, genealogical awareness and luck rather than a sophisticated knowledge of biology or mathematics I show that 37 STR markers are often quite sufficient to identify genetic families/surname branches, and one or two SNP Panel tests can be a very cost-effective follow-up to take many testees to near the forefront of this exciting application of citizen science.” James M. Irvine. https://www.rootstech.org/video/you-can-do-dna 2019, 2020 in Salt Lake City at end of month; https://www.rootstech.org/ https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/PREVIEW-Getting-Started-in-Genetic-Genealogy.mp4?_=1 Diahan Southard; exact matches are the only ones which have relevancy for today’s mtDNA. https://www.yourdnaguide.com/about Family Finder works best after creation of a GED file tree. Ancestry seems to have blogs, but not as active as FTDNA. FTDNA has a tendency of kicking out the in-laws so to speak. Each of the Autosomal have their advantages and disadvantages, as listed by Your DNA Guide Team which says; YOU CAN DO DNA. It should be noted that FTDNA accept transfers of autosomal DNA from other companies. The ones which don’t are likely tested in first then transferred to the others. (trying to invade the Scottish Highlands, with returning family of the US southeast)
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February 9 @ 1:01pm
142188 McLean Daniel/Donald McLean b.c. 1760, poss. Jura, Argyll Scotland I-FT56878 Robert Bell in Ulster Surnames, says strong relation to the Mc/Mac ‘Donald’. Forename ‘Donald’ likely related to the Donald (Mc/Mac), check Y-DNA relation. ‘Daniel’ forename for my Fermanagh line likely from McDaniel not the English Daniel.
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February 9 @ 12:20pm
https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Holz,1890:H%C3%B6lz,1890:Holzer,1890:H%C3%B6lzer https://named.publicprofiler.org/ Woodard, do you have any Y-DNA matches with surnames; Hölzer or Holz?
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February 8 @ 9:02pm
Some entertainment. https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Boat-to-America-Scocha.mp4 Before the genealogy. http://www.capefearclans.com/ArgyllColonists.html
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February 6 @ 8:57pm
https://www.yourdnaguide.com/about https://www.rootstech.org/video/you-can-do-dna https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/PREVIEW-Getting-Started-in-Genetic-Genealogy.mp4 PREVIEW: Getting Started in Genetic Genealogy May 24, 2016 Please note for; Mitochondrial DNA exact matches only.
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February 5 @ 11:49pm
https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Ott https://named.publicprofiler.org/ John Henry Ott b. 15 Jun 1770, PA, d. 8 Sep 1840
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February 5 @ 11:28pm
https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3471473?dpr=2&fit=max&h=385&w=590 Would consider the name Townsley. https://forebears.io/surnames/townsley
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Hi my name is Scarlet Hiatt. I knew my family came from Scotland but I found documentation that states John Anderson Tow came from Edinburgh Scotland and settled in Davidson NC. I have been in contact with Scotland geneology and they do not show any surname Tow during the 1700-1850. Does anyone know of a different surname that they might have had prior? I found marriage documentation that John Anderson Tow married Prissy Walser in Davidson then they later moved to VA. Eventually the spelling was changed to Towe.Any help would be appreciated.
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February 2 @ 12:49am
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January 31 @ 9:30pm
Argyll, can ignore, my family is from; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tullykelter_Castle https://www.historyireland.com/early-modern-history-1500-1700/sheep-stealers-from-the-north-of-england-the-riding-clans-in-ulster-by-robert-bell/ Can be a bit overwhelming. 918911 Johnston Unknown Origin E-M35 Feel that the E-M35 is from the Kirkpatrick, of the Kirkpatrick, near Johnstone, of Annandale. Also were I figure the Irwin and variants picked it up from. https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Armstrong-Elliott-Johnston-Fermanagh-surname-distribution-map.jpg Note; Johnston of Ulster, mainly County Fermanagh, second in number after surname Maguire, which county used to be named from. https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3464337?dpr=2&fit=max&h=526&w=590 Felt bad since my father’s Loren Spencer Elliott’s birthday is the day before Saint Patrick Day, a very important, a lot more so important in Armerica then that Saint Andrews Day, forgeting the Kirkpatrick, and their E-M35 Y-DNA which has seemed to spread among, Ervin, Irwin, and Irvin. Do you know what a Saint Patrick uses to drive those snakes out of Ireland. He used a crozier. Symbolizing the cane a Navajo grandma ‘shima’, in dealing with young sheep could hook the neck of a lamb with. Clan Crozier, like the Armstrong, Elliott, and Nixon, are a Scottish Middle March Clan. Yes, Saint Patrick is of the Gaelic, people of Scotland and Ireland, and some of them like the US president’s mother are known to genetically have red hair. It is said those dang Vikings maybe with that I-YDNA gave it to them. https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3436456?dpr=2&fit=max&h=357&w=590 https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3458850?dpr=2&fit=max&h=389&w=590 https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3436413?dpr=2&fit=max&h=625&w=590 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lochmaben_Castle just east of Lockerbie. https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/kirkpatrick/dna-results https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/calhoun/dna-results https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/humphrey/dna-results Johns(t)on(e) also; https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/johnson/about/background https://named.publicprofiler.org/ Kirkpatrick from region also. Clan Johnston youtube film; https://youtu.be/tgfkXZnFOqA There are a lot of things around the Irving tower at Bonshaw for Irwin and all those other feuding surnames listed with them from around the world would want to
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January 30 @ 11:38pm
https://named.publicprofiler.org/ MacCorquodale north of Oban, Scotland Catholics, likely migration to North Carolina region, becoming McCorquodale, Presbyterians c.1740.
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January 28 @ 8:19pm
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January 26 @ 11:36pm
37 markers seems like the best number, and if you want to buy an SNP at $39, just ask, can give a suggestion with reason.
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January 25 @ 4:58pm
Though it likely did not happen in the above. but this scenario could happen. There has been migration from Ulster, of names which settle in the Ulster Plantation, since 1890, mainly into what was once West Germany. A model which may apply to someone in the group. Smith is a good example because many a Gaelic name became the name Smith. http://www.therjhuntercollection.com/resources/muster-rolls-c-1630/search-muster-rolls/ https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Smith,1996:Smith https://www.familytreedna.com/public/EnglandGBGroupseijNorman?iframe=yresults Model also can work for the ‘Hill’ Surname of the T-YDNA grouping. Though ‘Hill’ has a strong showing as a surname in Germany in 1890, unlike ‘Smith’. https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1996:Hill,1890:Hill https://named.publicprofiler.org/ ‘Hill’ and ‘Smith’ are found in the Gaelic region of Argyll, would easily be names which the Argyllians if exposed to may Anglicized to because of the simplicity of a single syllable.
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January 23 @ 6:45pm
https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3452386?dpr=2&fit=max&h=616&w=590 https://www.rootstech.org/video/you-can-do-dna https://www.yourdnaguide.com/about Want to call then the Mormon Moms, or Moms for short. If you do not know how good they are as genealogists, let along geneticists you where not raised as a Mormon male, like I, but when utilizing the Family History Library, in Salt Lake City, Utah, you do not want to be drilled by a mom, as a family genealogist. https://elwald.com/brigham-this-is-the-place-genealogy-with-dna-applied/ Note; The Mormons because of their beliefs are top rated genealogist. Both Jame M. Irvine, and I are amateurs. The guide team also got hooked on genealogy, and like them because they are independent of corporation, and put the family and it’s history ahead of the genetics, the horse comes before the buggy, genetics-DNA is an additional tool of the genealogists. If information is passed down from the family, take that as the most correct information you can get, and as your base information, then branch of it. This information can start a tree, if it is a GED file, uploaded to a DNA site which finds DNA matches, but make sure this sprig never changes and keep it also as a separate base file, and let it grow. The biggest problem I get into is some so called ‘expert’, would try to change your base file. When it comes to family, I believe the and in the family, age, sex, intelligence does not manner. If a little girl of three identifies her mom, that is her mom, no questions asked. The material I present is just to give another way of looking at things, that is why to get more of a different view on the family needed in family research, listen first to the opposite sex. Top genealogists have noted this in finding their family. Even though a family genealogist of the family is an amateur, that usually is the best genealogist for the family. The reason for the statement ‘You can do DNA’, because if you do it for your family you are most likely to get the highest results.
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January 22 @ 6:49pm
Still looking to break-up into Sub-clades unfamiliar with; 3 R1b1a1a2 R-M269,Sub-clades Any knowledge or assistance will be helpful. It was a big help last time. Will be dropping some of the smaller groupings; R-FGC and R-Z hoping can be reclassified. Trying to cut down the R-M269 grouping a bit. If anyone is in R-M269, and match family with a downstream SNP, and there is a grouping for you let me know. A sizable R-M173 Y-haplogroup R1, has been grouped.
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January 23 @ 4:48pm
Wish I could afford it!
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January 23 @ 6:36pm
“With a combination of diligence, intuition, peer guidance, genealogical awareness and luck rather than a sophisticated knowledge of biology or mathematics I show that 37 STR markers are often quite sufficient to identify genetic families/surname branches, and one or two SNP Panel tests can be a very cost-effective follow-up to take many testees to near the forefront of this exciting application of citizen science.” James M. Irvine https://ggi2013.blogspot.com/2017/10/james-irvine-speaker-profile.html James M. Irvine; AGREE James and I got hooked on genealogy as a hobby. As an admin. https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/irwin/about Noted a lot of people have spent a lot of money on testing, but our total of more than a century of experience comes into agree with what James M. Irvine has stated. About 37 STR markers are needed, with about one or two SNP to be able to get the applicable results for ones own family research, beyond that it is felt you are getting into studies of others. Call it the, ‘lab rat syndrome’.
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January 22 @ 10:24pm
https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Scottish-research-mapping-to-US-reference-8.jpg https://forebears.io/surnames Gary Childress, Would go with Leeds, Yorkshire where the Childers/Childress are from. A lot of migration from Yorkshire to the Colonies. Note; ‘Kinder’ https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Kinder is German for ‘Childers’. As you know there is a lot of matching DNA on it, and Yorkshire ‘Leeds’ is of Danish Northumbria, and would carry the I-M253, Y-DNA.
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January 22 @ 8:18pm
R1 may be near the ‘green’ on map.
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January 22 @ 8:01pm
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January 8 @ 3:15pm
John McNeel, Though I have a map for myself how my Y-DNA traveled from P312, https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3256662?dpr=2&fit=max&h=488&w=590 need to map it so I can tell how others may have traveled. It seems like that R-U152 may have to travel by ship from Italy to get to Argyll. If anyone feels they belong in an R1b group, let me know because I want to put you in it. Error I can almost guaranteed have been made, and they need to be adjusted and corrected. If anyone else can think of groupings let me know. At a latter date same groups may be combined to their listed upstream category. Know 23andME lists SNP, and those which are R-M269, which do not have a down stream SNP listed, but know you belong in one of the above categories let me know, and I put you into that R1b grouping.
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January 7 @ 3:39pm
Trying to reorganize results in the best fashion for family finding. Models may be major names like MacNeill, Campbell, and MacDonald groups. By Island Islay, Jura, Skye, Barra, by SNP I and R sub groupings. Combination. The group has many variations as one can see. Feel that R-M269 is getting to large, needs to be divided some way. Could you suggest which can be incorporated.
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January 8 @ 6:34am
It would be helpful to sort R1b into the major groupings: L21, DF27, U106, and U152 for starts.
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January 8 @ 8:11am
Though may be considered difference, but may fit the model being considered, it seems like each island contains a SNP grouping. It is noted may be with the above sub groupings, with plans on taking on your suggestion, may be they can if we find blocks be associated with island names instead of surnames.
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January 5 @ 2:43pm
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January 4 @ 10:19pm
Dad did a lot of research trying to show what odd things passed down through our family history by his ancestors was incorrect. Do not recall him showing a thing which was passed down being incorrect. DNA does not begin to supersede what has been handed down as family history, but it can help you find what has not been handed down by your ancestors.
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January 1 @ 11:50pm
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December 30 @ 6:04pm
https://forebears.io/surnames/mcelmurray (note Mcelmurray instead of Mcelmurrey) thinly in US found in southeast. Co Tyrone, also..
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December 30 @ 6:26pm
Thanks , I have mention of them from Ireland before they came to SC in the 1700s.
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Does anyone have information on Mc Elmurrey?
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December 29 @ 9:41pm
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December 27 @ 7:34pm
https://www.familytreedna.com/public/R-L165Project?iframe=ycolorized PEI, Prince Edward Island, Canada, and Moore County, North Carolina just west of Fayetteville. https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3410164?dpr=2&fit=max&h=360&w=590
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December 29 @ 2:06pm
Scottish DNA – Clans, Families, and Surnames (Alasdair Macdonald) Alasdair is volunteer administrator for the Scottish DNA and R-L165 Projects at Family Tree DNA. He is a tutor and member of the core team leading the postgraduate programme in Genealogical Studies at the University of Strathclyde, Glasgow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwBY8sNBhhE Alasdair Macdonald, Though he speaks with an accent from the region and a lot of people are talking in the background, being from the region of people in this group, he sure knows his stuff on the MacDonald, MacNeill, and Buie, people your ancestors of the western Isles of Scotland. BBC – The Highland Clans – 2×6 – MacDonald.avi MacDonald https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIibyVhbGRA BBC- Clan Campbell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCKv-jwj1J8
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December 28 @ 7:45pm
Find it interesting tested single SNP $39 for R-S16361 by using FTDNA Y-DNA, and tested autosomal DNA for 23andME, and it was able to independently produce the R-S16361 SNP also. Unless you cluster yourself like Edward McDonald, in a large data base, of a downstream SNP Haplagroups, and have name matches, and place localities. SNP goes back too far in time to reach most genealogical research and time of surname adoption, but at some future date it is most likely they will approach genealogical research at time of surname adoption.
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December 25 @ 8:53am
Left out northern North Carolina, Tennessee, Indiana, southern Iowa, migration path. It was from South Carolina, I was given for example.
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December 25 @ 8:06am
https://forebears.io/surnames/finch https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3406944?dpr=2&fit=max&h=571&w=590 Hope everyone a Merry Christmas.
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December 25 @ 8:34am
Never met a Finch, but I am branch kin to a few. Spartanburg thing. Merry Christmas
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December 25 @ 7:58am
DNA is a tool of the genealogists, and Y-DNA can be grouped in family groupings. Which the three groups are called, Red, Blue, and Green. The Green group is the wildlife named group of the ‘finch and elk (moose)’, which I am in. The Red and Blue group likely have different origins. An individual suggest another method of naming likely correct for his particular family group. It is found a ‘de Finch’, a name which could me from/owner of land called Finch. One group above could be from the other group above could be owners of an estate called Finch. Red group to people list Sartanburg, SC. Since two list it and it is near the east coast it is likely all of the red group are from there or near there. It is a location of Scot-Irish (Ulster). Most likley from Ireland including the Scots of Ulster Ireland, to the Carolina. Religious preference, at first likely Presbyterian. Blue group shows, Stamford, CT. Stamford of Stamford Bridge near York indicates Anglican. There is migration from Anglia to this region. It is felt that this group likely migrated directly from the Suffolk (southern people of Anglia) to Connecticut, and settled around Stamford. The above is showing a family processing of grouping. One can snatch any image from an FTDNA blog, by right clicking the ‘cut and past’ (seems to work better in Google) the image address; https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3403780?dpr=2&fit=max&h=455&w=590 https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3406929?dpr=2&fit=max&h=455&w=590
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December 23 @ 11:56pm
https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Clan-Johnston.mp4 https://www.google.com/maps/place/Johnstone+Castle,+Johnstone+PA5+0SP,+UK/@55.8222602,-4.5193377,15z/ https://www.google.com/maps/place/Johnstone+Parish+Church+and+Churchyard/@55.2121562,-3.4297038,15z/ https://named.publicprofiler.org/
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December 23 @ 11:38pm
Brought to my attention by Edward McDonald, shows an example of Johnston as a Gaelic-Anglicized name. Edward McDonald was able to put himself into a grouping situation R-M512, which similar matches could be obtained, with a locality the Isle of Islay.
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December 23 @ 12:01am
https://www.scottishorigenes.com/news/how-scots-irish-or-irish-scot-are-you 501172 McKay Samuel McKay b.1734 and d. 1817 Amite, MS Scotland R-M222 458097 McKay Archibald McKay d. 1829 Robeson Co., NC Scotland I-M223 And I-M223 may be interested in. Consider I-M223 & I-M253 apart of my proto-Germanic R-U106 add-mix. https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/R-U106-I-M223-Germanic-PoBI-1-1024×351.jpg
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December 19 @ 7:32pm
“Hi Mark: I think I am already a member of this group, but I don’t see my Kit # listed in the DNA results list. My FTdna kit # is B179704. Also, I just spoke to my male cousin who is in a direct paternal line from our earliest known ancestor in North America, Donald Daniel Campbell. He is going to take the Y-DNA test, so that will give us more info. Donald Daniel Campbell was part of the Argyll Colony, he and his wife had three children in Cumberland County between 1777 and 1783 when they were forced to flee because they were Loyalists. ”
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December 19 @ 7:34pm
Hopefully others will mention things needed to be done.
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December 19 @ 7:38pm
Is anyone else here searching for Donald Daniel Campbell b. circa 1755 in Scotland, was in Cumberland County NC 1774 (or possibly earlier) – 1783, fled 1st to Jamaica, then settled in Lot 16, Prince Edward Island, Canada in 1785. He was married to Margaret (aka Mary) Fullerton. They had 7 children: Archibald, Elizabeth, Barbara, William, Mary, Donald Daniel II, and Jane.
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December 19 @ 9:45pm
Meghan OFlaherty, Having a difficulty figuring out hour to get you into ‘DNA results’. It seems like those which are joining the group are getting into the ‘DNA results’ automatically when they join. May be you can drop and rejoin, or wait to see what happens with Donald Daniel Campbell, see if he joins whether his is put into ‘DNA results’ automatically. Would appreciate a response from a new joiner, telling me whether they were put into the ‘DNA results’ stats automatically. Groups I joined seemed to have me in the ‘ungrouped’ instantaneously.
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December 19 @ 9:18pm
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December 19 @ 8:59pm
https://www.familytreedna.com/public/MacNeil?iframe=ycolorized Mainly all from Argyll, some from Scot Gaelic, north County Antrim, Ireland just across sea from Argyll, Scotland. Most migration of group to North Carolina. Pennsylvania some, and Canada would look into Nova Scotia, and any other suggestion this group may have. Name at migration to American Colony and Antrim, MacNeill Catholic leaning to America McNeill felt to drop “l” on occasion. Nova Scotia may have a tendency to retain the Gaelic, and the Catholic along with the name MacNeill, becoming “Mc-” look for Presbyterian. Note any graphic address can be obtain by hitting on picture with click on right button then copied to where ever example; https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3399654?dpr=2&fit=max&h=330&w=590 Found one from group (417225) not in above grouping, but none seem in first 25 markers to be more than 1 off.
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December 19 @ 7:45pm
A17051 CTS9346 A22912 Web results I1-L813 Y-DNA Haplogroup – FamilyTreeDNA https://www.familytreedna.com/public/i-l813y-haplogroup?iframe=yresults 125, 589179, Dan McNeil, b 1777 Canada, Canada, I-A17051, 13, 23, 14, 10 ….. 1781 Scotland], Scotland, I-CTS9346, 13, 23, 14, 10, 14-15, 11, 14, 11, 12, 11, 28 …. 150, 672218, JohnMcNeilb1817Ballycastled1904Iowa, Scotland, I-A22912 … Welcome to the MacNeil surname Y-DNA … – FamilyTreeDNA https://www.familytreedna.com/public/MacNeil?iframe=yresults 589179, McNeal, Dan McNeil, b 1777 Canada, Canada, I-A17051, 13, 23, 14 … Arinafadmore Farm, North Knapdale, Argyll, Scotland, I-CTS9346, 13, 23, 14, 10 ….. 210364, McNeil, Archibald McNeill, Ireland, I-A22912, 13, 23, 14, 10, 14-15 …
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December 19 @ 7:35pm
This is a grouping which looks like Argyll, or across from in Ballycastle, but Scots Gaelic also. Need more information, to began to derive rough model. Migration from North Carolina to Indiana, Illinois, Iowa. Also to Canada as Tories. Like I said to early to formulate model. https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3399564?dpr=2&fit=max&h=64&w=590
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December 11 @ 8:43am
Felt that I should show how I was able to utilize my mtDNA in my own research, which I would consider unique for most. Would take a lot of space on blog so provided link. It should be noted for mtDNA, on an exact match, it is at 50% for 5 generations, and 95% at 22 generations. For genealogy the autosomal DNA seems to be the best though it says it does not reach far back in time like Y-DNA and mtDNA, seems like I was able to get it back nine generations; https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Rowell-Wheeler-autosomal-link.jpg which should be more than ample for most genealogical research, the competition is high and the costs are lower, firms such as ancestry and MyHeritage, also lean strong on the genealogy, and have research documenting for a cost through their sites. Y-DNA is great when integrated with place name locality mapping which can find correlations with surname census concentration ‘hotspots’. It seems like FTDNA does not promote these integrating tactics. They also in the TIP calculation utilize four significant places, when at the most may two significant numbers may be obtained from the years per generation. FTDNA only utilizes one significant number at 30 years per generation in TIP calculation, without making it publicly readily available that the zero in the units place is significant. FTDNA does not utlilize proper standard of mathematics and applied measurement in TIP calculation. So far it seems that Y-DNA with matching surnames, at about 37 markers, is a good way to see relationships, but with census surname distribution correlation with identifiable place name analogies FTDNA could do much better. https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/4-Types-DNA-diagram.jpg https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3169328?dpr=2&fit=max&h=242&w=590 https://www.rootstech.org/video/you-can-do-dna https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Y-DNA-autosomal-mtDNA-300×242.jpg https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/23andME-Geni-FTDNA-mtDNA-H27a-Ryan-Murph-Smith-Croak..jpg https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Nicolaus-Copernicus-Polish-Academy-of-Arts-and-Sciences-pages-33-and-116.jpg https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/FTDNA-101829-autosomal-Y-DNA-mtDNA.png http://www.cyfronet.krakow.pl/~n1kokows/M.Kokowski-ed.-The-Nicolaus-Copernicus-grave-mystery-2015.pdf DNAeXplained – Genetic Genealogy Discovering Your Ancestors – One Gene at a Time https://dna-explained.com/2012/07/15/the-crs-and-the-rsrs/ “Mutation 16519C is present in just about everyone. In fact, in more than half of the people. So what this really means is that it’s not really a mutation in the people who carry 16519C, it really was a mutation in the anonymous person who is the Cambridge Reference Sequence. But since they did not carry 16519C, it’s reported as a mutation in the rest of us. However, it’s really the “normal” state of the DNA, or what we call the ancestral state. And it’s relatively useless when comparing your results to others because nearly everyone has it.” (Roberta J. Estes technical responder) It should be noted that the ‘family knows best’, and anyone kicking an individual out of that FTDNA blog, the blog is no longer valid for genealogical research, because even though you may want to kick the in-laws and Xs out it distorts the family tree, where improper genealogy and data results are found. Now you know what kind of problems I am into. Product of both my parents. Dad, had intellect because he listened to and believed in people, a rural sort of knowledge. Mom, had self possessed city townhouse, Troy, NY where Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute is, A New York intellect which if internalized can be destructive in a manner in creating ones one world, but we are a combination of both our mom and dad, and that brings on the autosomal DNA. Felt that one should have their own independent genealogical software, to create a GED file, from family information they can trust, then keep that basis of ones own family as a base program, and seed into the matching trees and DNA of other families. This way one can see where corrections need to be made beyond your own family, as you expand on knowledge of the family which you are from.
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December 10 @ 9:24am
Would suggest you utilize ancestry for your autosomal, if you are doing genealogical DNA, larger data base, genealogy is their base interest, and you can transfer it to FTDNA. The Mormons run it and they are excellent genealogists. Have a Family History Library FHL in Salt Lake City, Utah which I utilized, and available when working there and attending the U of UT. Dad used there stacks in the church’s office building before the built the library. There are Family History Centers FHC world wide and online https://www.familysearch.org/. Offering their church to ancestors, extending there family with in their religion, it is family which should be the reason to be interested in family history. Feel many Mormons are loosing interest in something which is apart of their church when others are getting interested in it because of the DNA being introduced. It goes for Mormons or anyone of any religion you have to be in charge of your own analysis of your on DNA becuase; YOU Can Do DNA; https://www.rootstech.org/video/you-can-do-dna these ladies know; https://www.rootstech.org/video/you-can-do-dna . The men were never mothers, and it seems moms make the best genealogists, a son should always listen to one’s mom for good advice. The last vote on women’s suffrage was from a gentleman from the state of Tennessee which listened to his mother, of course the Morman ladies already had the right to vote in Utah, Idaho, Colorado, and firstly Wyoming, after a JP of a County in Wyoming where I once lived Sweetwater, name Ester H. Mooris, a mom, saw that Wyoming about a half century before it was in the US Constitution that women Right To Vote. Also in teaching equal work equal pay. Those rough and tough cowboys are no match for those rough and tough cowgirls. U of Wyo class of 72, U of Utah of 79. There are a good number of Mormons admin these blogs, and would be very difficult to chase them off. In Family History, the Mormon ladies take a key part, and it is felt that with the men in charge of these blogs, this may be creating some difficulties. Besides their first president is a Smith and that is my mtDNA. One can not get a better Anglo-Border-Reiver name then Brigham Young, and they named a school after him except for may be Armstrong and Elliott, and those Argyll Gaelic Highlanders would take in those Armstrong, Elliott, and even those Johnston, so what does it make those Argyll Highlanders out to be? Though I can show approaches to finding your family history, I can not do it. If I do I guarantee it would be incorrect. You will find your own family history more interesting than mine which I utilize in instruction (retired school teacher), because of my familiarity with it. All have prejudices because we all lived different lives, it is a collective of those lives which makes way for democracy. Brought up Methodist by a mother raised Catholic, leanings are; “Perhaps 400 practicing Conservative Friends live in Ohio, Iowa, and North Carolina, mostly in the same rural areas we have occupied for 200 years.” http://www.quaker.us/welcome.html a cultural aspect of indigenous Americans, and Conservative Friends, and written many years ago in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania in the US Constitution, that which people of this land and the old conservative Friends (Quakers) already applied and others wanted it as a right, ‘freedom of speech’.
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Buie of Jura to NC https://gorrenberry.com/buie-of-jura-y-dna-snp-by13651-uploads/ https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/The-family-Buie-Scotland-to-North-America.pdf FTDNA group which some of the Argyll Colony may fit into Open to all; Isle of Jura Y-DNA Project Isle of Jura, Argyllshire, Scotland https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/diurach/about/background r-l165-project/dna-resultsR-L165 R-L165 (S68) https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r-l165-project/dna-results
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May 9 @ 8:11pm
Homer Chavis (chay vis, not Chavez), Met another Chavis from your native nation, today at Fire Rock Casino dining. The Casino built for the Navajo east of my town of Gallup, so they Navajo will not as much gamble at other native nation’s casinos. Would you believe her skin pigment was darker. Mark
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Mark Elliott
May 17 @ 8:09am
Found some things as being a part of this group. Since the migration of group started in 1739, the War Between the States-The Civil War when doing the genealogy, does not exist, it is something in the unknown future. Given a translation for the Buie of Jura, from the Gaelic, DNA travels with language, first before history is included. https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/The-family-Buie-Scotland-to-North-America.pdf It has been brought up and I agree, that arriving in 1739 that that the families were Loyalists, and after the Revolution some moved on to localities such as The West Indies, and Nova Scotia, which were still under the English Crown. Yazzie in my region is Navajo. Chavis in North Carolina is Lumbee. Skin coloration is a poor indicator of genetic indigenous race. As in the past a race of people were determined by language they spoke. Feel that the PoBI, on population genetics shows this so; https://www.peopleofthebritishisles.org/population-genetics. Explains, including an explanation of autosomal DNA; Garrett Hellenthal – The Genetic History of the United Kingdom: the POBI project https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ANNHMzmxlI Hellenthal, linguistically is a German, place name. https://www.google.com/maps/place/53940+Hellenthal,+Germany/@50.4184034,6.3085764,11z/ which has surname concentration in the Hellenthal, German region; https://forebears.io/surnames/hellenthal Like Yazzie a name created in the Four Corners region of the US, where UT, AZ, NM, and CO meet, Chavis of North Carolina, near the Argyll Colony, Hellenthal, is a surname from Hellenthal, Germany. It seems like the main concentration from Argyll to Argyll Colonies is from the islands of Argyll. A direct migration, not through Ulster, North Ireland, the path of English-Scottish Borderers. Though some it is felt after the establishment of the NC Argyll Colony may have taken this path. It is felt that the Campbell, and McNeil which are in great numbers within this group, and also have in census the greatest proportion among the surnames, are names of adoption from previous Gaelic surnames, which gives them a migration, pattern further towards the east in the United Kingdom. This is felt caused by the western Campbell, and McNeil, from the islands of Argyll, migrating to The Colonies. In the process of migration, names sometimes have a tendency to change. Picked up in migration, to Ulster or the American Colonies, this could be because of religion. It is felt that the Mac- changed to Mc- influenced by migration and a change in religion. Mac- would most likely be concentrated in places the Mc- came from. The Mac- of the original Christain-Catholic after The Reformation, and the Mc-, most likely Presbyterian-Protestant on arrival to Ulster or the American Colonies. Early arrivals ca1650 to the American Coast from Ulster and Scotland, Charles II of Charlestown, MA, SC, and Nevis Island of the West Indies where Alexander Hamilton, of the Anglican Hamilton which fought against Cromwell (ca1650 English Civil War) are from. Finding Anglican-Episcopalians, becoming Methodists and Baptists.
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July 9 @ 3:43pm
My uncle J McLellan matches Preston Chavis as 3-5th cousin on his family finder matches. I just have figured out how our McLellan and Lowery lines he matches Locklear and Chavis.
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https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Scottish-research-mapping-to-US-reference-8.jpg Above is from Family History Center, Church of Latter Day Saints, Mesa, Arizona. From Gallup, New Mexico, USA, it was acquired, when visiting dad in Mesa, when we were at the library. Dad and I liked to partner in American Contract Bridge League, bridge Tempe, Arizona, and it is liking on way back from a bridge game. Western Conference Top Masterpoint Holders ACBL District 17 Sept 2011 32. Louis Quiggle, Phoenix AZ …………………….. 12,336.75 42. Rosalind Quiggle, Phoenix AZ ………………… 10,689.20 75. Loren Elliott, Mesa AZ ……………………………… 8800.47 Could remember in Tempe, AZ partnering dad, with the Quiggle, playing the opponent the Quiggle, with less than 70 master points. Gallup, New Mexico, USA does not have duplicate bridge about 200 km/ 130 miles away in Albuquerque, New Mexico. http://www-personal.umich.edu/~copyrght/wca/District%2017.pdf Dad played bridge, and it seems that I do computers and genealogy to keep my mine active.
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June 26 @ 9:16am
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June 26 @ 8:46am
https://forebears.io/surnames?q=Murphy Murphy and Smith came to Ireland from East England, which many Irish (Scots), Gaelic names Anglicized themselves into, when the language of Gaelic became the languages of Anglo-Scots, that of English. Knowing my line of dad’s Elliott, they in Co Fermanagh, Ulster, Ireland most likely married mother’s Murphy. Those border Scots, can they marry the Irish? They married those Graham, English when they were on the Scottish-English border.
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June 24 @ 11:16pm
https://forebears.io/surnames?q=Smith Smith for mother. https://nvk.entless.org/mapbox/1890:smith https://nvk.entless.org/mapbox/1890:schmidt,1890:schmitt 906317 Smith Unknown Origin R-M269 B311215 Smith Germany G-Z42385
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June 23 @ 10:21pm
December 31 @ 12:44pm https://peopleofthebritishisles.web.ox.ac.uk/population-genetics https://www.libraryireland.com/gregg/gregg-volume.pdf It should be noted that the Argyll is Gaelic, and Armstrong and Elliott are Border Scot. Above a repeat from last year. https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/SELLING-SCOTS-AS-SLAVES-IS-FUNNY-TO-THE-TORIES-2.mp4?_=1 It is likely that my relatives ended up in the Colony of Massachusetts, instead of the West Indies because they were not Gaelic speakers, but spoke English-Scots. It should be noted that Alexander Hamilton’s family ended up on Nevis Island in the West Indies, which has a Charlestown on it, showing that they like my family which fought on the side of the Hamilton also fought for Charles II. The Argyllians in 1740 were Loyalists, and had to make the decision to remain Loyalist or leave the new nation of the USA, or to stay with it. This would be a difficult decision for a Loyalist Gaelic family to do. In doing your genealogy, all families hit on difficult times. Like with mine the Salem Witch Trials, just have to research through it. Note the ones which give you the most difficult time during a genealogical period are likely the ones which can give you the greatest amount of genealogical knowledge to research through that difficult era of time.
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June 15 @ 2:48pm
50790 Hill John M Hill , b1819 Darlington SC England T-M70 Note; Nixon is an NPE, may have happened in north England, considering the number of mutations. Nixon are of the Scottish Middle March family of Armstong, Elliot, Nixon , and Crozier, where the Liddesdale Nixon lived among the Elliot. It is likely the family stemmed from southern North Carolina, into South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, and Tennessee. The name likely evolved from the Latin into the Germanic T-M70 would be Roman DNA. Hill is of Germanic to Old English origins. https://nvk.entless.org/mapbox/1890:hill https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_T_Y-DNA.shtml https://www.familytreedna.com/puhttps://www.familytreedna.com/public/hill?https://www.familytreedna.com/public/hill?iframe=ycolorized https://forebears.io/surnames/hill http://named.publicprofiler.org/
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June 15 @ 1:39pm
787428 Huitt Randall I Huet, b. 1607 and d. 2 Nov 1669 United Kingdom. Anglo name, whether Huitt, Huet, but if finding Hewitt could be Anglicized from a Gaelic name. Likely in UK; Huet, Danish Anglia (Suffolk), to Danish Northumberia (East Riding, Yorkshire). In Argyll feel that some may have been Anglicize, for this to happen an introduced Huitt seed would be needed. Hewitt name migration most likely from Argyll to NC, and to Antrim, Ulster. added 6-18-2019 Hewitt, in the name found in the Cape Fear River, region of North Carolina, where the Argyll Colony settled.
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June 15 @ 1:30pm
595275 Clark Alexander Clark, b. 1650 and d. 1690 Scotland J-M172 https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Montgomery?iframe=yresults A lot of Montgomery have J-M172 (Ancient Roman), and are found in Scotland. Noting you are searching other groups. Check matches on “m-” for (M-/Mc-/Mac-).
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June 13 @ 11:37am
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Armitage,+Rugeley,+UK/@52.7225519,-1.8770758,12.21z/ ‘Armitage’, may be biologist of a later era, and not Anglicized from the Gaelic. Place name locality works in Yorkshire, but it is felt going back to an earlier surname where the numbers of the surnames dwindle, and can give a more specific locality is a better model for the Argyll group.
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May 12 @ 6:25pm
McNeil and Campbell, group is large. Indicative of Gaelic names evolving and merging into. Giving a place of migration more towards the west from the Isles of Argyll. Look for departures of recognizable names of your family and Y-DNA surname matches on ships out of Greenock, near Glasgow. Reference the Highland Scots of North Carolina 1732-1776 page 86 and http://named.publicprofiler.org/
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May 17 @ 2:26am
I am doing a genealogical tour of Scotland now! Colonsay, Oronsay, Islay, Gigha and the Kintyre Penninsula. The local people are very kind and helpful. Scotland and the Hebrides are amazing. I highly recommend anyone in this group to take a look. The Youth Hostels have tons of knowledge and guidance!
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John McNeel
June 3 @ 8:09am
Has anyone encountered R1b-DF27-L165-A11118 MacNeils from Argyll or the American Argyll Colony?
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Mark Elliott
June 5 @ 11:45pm
https://www.familytreedna.com/public/oneill?iframe=yresults Reference you likely already check, but in case you have not. See you are in FTDNA MacNeil already.
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June 1 @ 5:14pm
http://named.publicprofiler.org/ N234114 McDuffie and B172456 McDuffie, The two McDuffie, find you are likely not Y-DNA related, but feel you are related from where you came. MacDuffie, is said to be a sept Robert Bell, Ulster surnames of the MacFie, and feel that migration to the North Carolina Argyll Colony has shown to take place in region the surname MacFie is concentrated, so for two McDuf-fie to be in group indicates migration to NC Argyll Colony, likely from the region of MacFie.
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May 18 @ 6:35pm
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May 18 @ 5:47pm
James D. Elliott, and myself are descended from the sixth son. Vitals supersede, chart.
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May 18 @ 5:31pm
Question; Which is better SNP, or genetic distance, to determine closeness in the family tree? Though James Donald Elliott did not have SNP testing he is the closest in the 37 marker test by being 1 marker off. All others are 2-4 in 37 markers off. Do test different on the SNP because the rest of the Daniel Elliot cluster, are descended from the first son. James D. Elliott, and myself are descended from the sixth son. It should be noted that is is felt that the SNP at this date is not an improvement over marker distance, but refinements are being made to SNP testing in which these improvements in the future could surpass marker distance. It should be noted that the testing of SNP mainly by group through Yseq. It showed that it tested as R-S16361, so paid for SNP R-S16361 testing, and FTDNA as Yseq has shown that I was positive. If in a group, like the Buie of Jura group by testing the most downstream SNP match one would likely test positive, and gain that FTDNA classification. May save all the negative testing on a Big-Y.
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May 18 @ 5:11pm
Isle of Skye migration region for McTavish, and maybe William Campbell of Alabama with similar Y-DNA.
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May 16 @ 8:44pm
http://named.publicprofiler.org/ MacGill, Argyll to McGill likely Presbyterian of Argyll, Colony, NC.
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May 16 @ 8:33pm
Hill T-M70, seem to be related, likely out of NC to SC, Georgia, TN. Hill FTDNA, shows indication of Brunswick County at most. More research needed to show surname concentration population region. Likely not Presbyterian, maybe Episcopalian, English, then Baptist or Methodist. It would help to know the religion.
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May 16 @ 7:33pm
MacRory Need to join, https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r-1b-l1335/dna-results A lot of your Y16252 appears from Scotland. Need to know where in US, and if Presbyterian in family line. DNA matching Scotland but surname MacRory, leans Northern Ireland – Ulster. Need to compare in this group. Seems to be near match to McLaurin, which is in this group also.
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May 16 @ 6:33pm
This is a maximum of 67. Since surname in our society follows the Y-DNA it seems Y-DNA handles best. FTDNA is including mtDNA and autosomal. Autosomal, is utilized by many genealogical research sites such as Ancestry, and MyHeritage. For researching all relatives, for the price autosomal about $60 is felt to be the best. MyHeritage and FTDNA accepts transfers from Ancestry. SNP test may assist with a number of same surnames like Elliott, to show which group of a given surname in a cluster is closer. If you do not have a large grouping then SNP test may not help in genealogical research. With merging names like the McNeil and Campbell if matching is shown, not likely in this group, but likely in respective SNP or surname groups the SNP testing may assist.
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May 16 @ 6:32pm
People may ask a question. For surname Y-DNA how many markers show I test to? 12, 25, 37, 67, or 111? From examples pertaining to my Y-DNA though I tested to 111, my answer would be for surname analysis a minimum of 37, and a maximum of 67. This is a minimum of 37 markers. This group has more Elliott in it because not all the Elliott which tested for 37 markers tested for 67 markers. FTDNA sends me marker test on people in this group. It is best an easy for you to run a 37 and 67 marker test on yourself on a regular basis, to show new additions, or people in your group which have upgraded the number of markers. At 25 markers and below people of other surname families encroach. If you have a great number of matches at the 12 marker level, this will indicate a Y-DNA match more at the time of surname adoption. Given knowledge of this surname match, if one can figure where the name has location then a location can be found at time of surname adoption. The surname matches at 12 markers are normally extremely large in number. Utilized by me is an alphabetical approach, of first letter search from a through z, then for m, include mc and mac. https://gorrenberry.com/geographic-surname-dna-correlation/
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