FTDNA Argyll Colony NC

Thanks , I have mention of them from Ireland before they came to SC in the 1700s.

Scottish DNA – Clans, Families, and Surnames (Alasdair Macdonald) Alasdair is volunteer administrator for the Scottish DNA and R-L165 Projects at Family Tree DNA. He is a tutor and member of the core team leading the postgraduate programme in Genealogical Studies at the University of Strathclyde, Glasgow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwBY8sNBhhE Alasdair Macdonald, Though he speaks with an accent from the region and a lot of people are talking in the background, being from the region of people in this group, he sure knows his stuff on the MacDonald, MacNeill, and Buie, people your ancestors of the western Isles of Scotland. BBC – The Highland Clans – 2×6 – MacDonald.avi MacDonald https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIibyVhbGRA BBC- Clan Campbell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCKv-jwj1J8

Never met a Finch, but I am branch kin to a few. Spartanburg thing. Merry Christmas

I am related to quite a few surnames on that floor.

Hope the native Argyll Highlanders realize it, if one of those floor names match their Y-DNA, then someone of that name from the borders likely seeded it into that area of Argyll, and at the time of surname adoption they took that name. It is not NPE. Johnston is one of those names of County Fermanagh, found in the Argyll islands, which had Argyllian Y-DNA, obviously it was not NPE, but likely a surname seeded there which was adopted because of it’s Anglicized linguistic nature.

Yep just about right for me , mostly English with a dash of Scots -Irish and a smidge of German and Swiss.

Thanks, I am kit 35043. My sample actually ‘discovered’ FGC 11674, along with FGC 11650 something through FGC 1170something at Full Genomes back several years ago. I recently ordered the Big Y 700 for comparison purposes. It seems that FTDNAs block tree offers comparisons that are not available through FGC (I just have a lot of pages of data from them).

James M. Irvine is a person that knows his genealogy and does excellent with the Clan Irwin FTDNA surname project. Helps shows the type of chart Robert McMillan, is talking about in his Big-Y, but James M. Irvine was able to develop it on his own. He is from Scotland, the borders of; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMcBkz79wQM&t=1349s A Scots-Irish case study: the Irwin DNA Project (James Irvine) 8,502 views•Dec 12, 2015

Thanks, my McMillans and Murphys came from Kintyre, Argyle, Scotland

Between the Mac of Isle Islay and the Mc & Murphy of near Glasgow, a likely place for them to be from.

Mine landed in Maryland, but I believe them to be from that area of Scotland.

Since the Y-DNA sample size is same, you and others, I certainly have, may want to out of curiosity if you have not already, check in match search for Mc..or Mac… beginnings, and check surname census locality, https://named.publicprofiler.org/, may indicate relative, if of same region. Names can go both ways towards or away from the Gaelic. It is felt my family being early Ulster Plantation began to lean Gaelic at first until more border Ellot moved into region. The family name Daniel, for Dan a nickname for Andrew, which was adopted at the time, likely influenced by the McDaniel, of the area.

Thank you, our Scots were in Robeson and Cumberland, we do have one line from Granville, NC.

Yes, I have been researching these names because J McLellan’s mother was a Lowery and it is our brick wall. He has matches to Locklear, Lowery, Chavis and Oxendine. I wish I knew how we were related. The search continues!

J McLellan is my uncle. Other surnames from Argyll Scotland to NC in our direct line are Stewart, Graham, McGugan/McGoogan, MacDougall, McGuirman, Thompson, McCormick, Munn and McLeod.

I am doing a genealogical tour of Scotland now! Colonsay, Oronsay, Islay, Gigha and the Kintyre Penninsula. The local people are very kind and helpful. Scotland and the Hebrides are amazing. I highly recommend anyone in this group to take a look. The Youth Hostels have tons of knowledge and guidance!

Has anyone encountered R1b-DF27-L165-A11118 MacNeils from Argyll or the American Argyll Colony?

https://www.familytreedna.com/public/oneill?iframe=yresults Reference you likely already check, but in case you have not. See you are in FTDNA MacNeil already.

Thank you, Mark. The marker A11118 undoubtedly belonged to Roderick Dubh MacNeil, the 38th Chief of Clan MacNeil. Descendants of 2 separate sons of Roderick Dubh (Gilleonan, 1st Tacksman of Brevig and James, 1st Tacksman of Ersary) have both tested positive for A11118 which means they inherited the marker from their father. The only question is whether Roderick Dubh was the first person to have the A11118 mutation or whether he inherited it from his father, Gilleonan MacNeil, the 37th Chief of Clan MacNeil.

barra; bar-measure, dubh; black both in Gaelic. Dubh surname could be Anglicized to Black. Seems M’Kneill of Barray, leans to the older spellings.

My McNeals were rolling stones – Gigha/Colonsay to Antrim, Northern Ireland to New France, Quebec, to New France, Detroit – which then became British Detroit, then Northwest Territory Detroit, the Indiana Territory Detroit, and Michigan Territory/State, then to Illinois. McNeal/MacKay married in 1730 in Ireland. Their sons married French women in Quebec and a Metis woman in Detroit. Even when all clues point elsewhere. Hard footprints to follow.

MacNeill by Robert Bell as you have said from Gigha the small island just to the east of Islay, and MacNeil followers of MacDonalds from Islay. The MacNeill is origin based and name did evolve into Mcneal and other variations, and did travel as you have indicated, and you have given excellent information on. Finding with group, though their Anglicized Gaelic names traveled many places, that if they are found in North Carolina, they travel from mainly from Argyll. Though from Argyll to the places you have mentioned also. Colonsay is the island just west of Jura, which shows today a high concentration of MacNeill in the map I have given. The original name near the original locality is indicative to be MacNeill, which would be most likely Catholic. It seems when people migrate to other places, or change religion in this case to Presbyterian Mc- from the Catholic Mac- the name may undergo other changes. Though still learning about the Gaelic somewhat Anglicized names and still have a lot to learn. Thank You and others of the group for the assistance, because I have so far gain knowledge on it and am still gaining insight which helps me in locality analysis. There are also the O’Neil and O’Neill versions, I am keeping in mine. Try to use the Mac- versions which I think are the base names which the variants migrated from. It should be noted the Anglicized Johnston-M(a)cDonald combo in these isles was a surprise also. Gaelic is quite foreign to English, where Scots is referred to as another language, but also a dialect. As society went towards Scots and English the Gaelic names seem to evolve into them. Know of a Graham which was originally from Gaelic Gromley, in Ulster. One an island to have distinguishing surnames diversifying them to the language being adopted may have been a way to cope. So I is important as Edward McDonald has done to enter and my leave soon the FTDNA correction; for Edward he was matching McKain, and utilized that grouping which was better if you match another name group or and SNP group. For a Johnston, to match a McDonald and claim Islay as their origins, and not County Fermanagh, Ulster that Johnston has to be correct, which gives Edward McDonald his origins, and a likelihood that it is into the Argyll Colony of NC his family migrated into.

It seems like the MacLellan has it. Migration from Jura-Islay towards Glasgow. Campbell and Young being more Anglicized would over MacLellan, be at a place migrated to, instead of from. MacMillan in Isay, MacCallum a bit north of there today. http://named.publicprofiler.org/

Did not notice at time the Islands of Islay and Jura in above map.