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Mark Elliott

42 minutes ago

https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/yorkshire/activity-feed https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Kilian,1890:Killian https://forebears.io/surnames/killian Steven Bailey, “The main place that you will see matches with many different surnames is the Y-DNA12 Marker Matches section. The time to a common ancestor for these matches may extend beyond genealogical records and the adoption of surnames.” https://learn.familytreedna.com/user-guide/y-dna-myftdna/y-matches-page/ https://www.peopleofthebritishisles.org/population-genetics Genetic Ancestry and the People of the British Isles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8k9LMaFeRM Apr 27, 2018 Early Yorkshire Charters: Being a Collection of Documents …books.google.com › books William Farrer – 1915 FOUND INSIDE – PAGE XXIII The same confirms to Crispin de Branham certain land . 1175 – 90 . . . . . . . . . . 1026 . Nigel Fossard to Peter the clerkland in Bramham . 1175 – 90 346 1027 . Peter the clerk to William de Langewait — his lay fee in Bramham . 1175 – 95 . https://www.google.com/maps/search/Branham,+Yorkshire,+UK/@53.8566443,-1.4870262,10.83z?hl=en&authuser=0

Mark Elliott

July 23 @ 9:08pm

“A previous posting said, “The closest DNA matches to date are at genetic distance 3, so fairly removed. ” In how many markers, 12, 25, or 37 ? If it is 37 markers it is significant, and would like to know the surname match. Do you have any exact matches at 25, or multiple matches with the same surname including variants at 12?” I ask of what significance are the lower level matches? In my case I have a lot of Ross and Masseys at 12 and Hilton and Helton at 67. My Father-in-Law, a Bramham from Bradford, has numerous Killian, Killion and Kilians at the 12 level which is suggesting to me Palatine ancestry. Any thoughts? ” In specific accordance to FTDNA, at 29 years, and it is my understanding that that FTDNA uses a measurement of 30 years/generation. Without specifying the the units number being significant, this in accordance to proper standard math practices, makes it 30±5 years. When they get an outcome from TIP calculation from entering a measurement of one significant digit and output four significant digits this shows the level mathematical knowledge which is utilized by FTDNA. This is information I am passing from them so take it or leave it. “The main place that you will see matches with many different surnames is the Y-DNA12 Marker Matches section. The time to a common ancestor for these matches may extend beyond genealogical records and the adoption of surnames.” https://learn.familytreedna.com/user-guide/y-dna-myftdna/y-matches-page/ https://www.familytreedna.com/faq-markers.aspx So at about the time of surname adoption in accordance to FTDNA, which in this region would be close to 29 generations, the exact matches for 12, 25, and 37 rank the same. The surname Bramham, and Branford are of place names since in Yorkshire the ending “-ford” refers to a shadow river crossing, and the ending “-ham”, refers to as home. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Bradford,+UK/@53.7442723,-2.0864386,8.15z/ https://www.google.com/maps/place/Bramham,+Wetherby,+UK/@53.2545967,-2.7113086,7.62z/ As one can seen Bradford and Bramham of Yorkshire are not far from each other. As you state Kilian, and Killian are of Germany; https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Killian,1890:Kilian But it is also Irish, and the Irish have been known to Anglicized their names from the Gaelic. Have you compared your DNA with https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/killian-killion/dna-results to determine whether it is German or Irish?

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Steven Bailey

Yesterday at 7:37am

Hi, Thanks. I joined the Killian group. A number of the matches are from the Carolinas and of German descent. As for Ireland, yes there was a Saint Killian but also there were also a number of Poor Palatines who were located there. And some were accepted in Yorkshire. Please see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Palatines. So, of what value are numerous zero distance surname 12 level matches? What does it mean?

Mark Elliott

5 minutes ago

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Mark Elliott

3 hours ago

click right to enlarge in new tab Armstrong, Elliot, Nixon, and Crozier of the Scottish Middle March, were exiled by protestant James VI of Scotland, who was taken from his Catholic mom, Marie Stuart, Queen of Scots. Who the protestant cousin the first Queen Elizabeth had beheaded, and when she died James VI of Scotland became James I of England also. So it was move and be exiled to basically County Fermanagh, or be exterminated. This happened by king James of now Scotland and England after Elizabeth died in 1603, by the army of the English. The Mechanics are basically the same, but to be family history the results for each family is different, that is what makes family history fun when doing ones own family is finding out about your particular family, and therefore getting to know ones self better. Elliott (personal prejudice) then Armstrong, with the Middle March families Scottish side, of Nixon and Crozier included; The process of finding family, is like having a black colt, and a corral full of horses, and looking for the colt’s mother. So in the corral you first clear out all those horses which Y-DNA, the stallions. The the old mares, because they are to old to have a young colt. Then the mares which are not black. The colt is a Shetland. So you clear out all those which are not Shetland, and then the ones which are not black, and left with two young black Shetland mares, but can not tell which one it the colt’s mother. Then you put family into the coral. Release the colt, and then the colt finds it’s mother. In genealogy, genetics can divide out family. My mother does not carry Y-DNA, blue eyed, and dad also, so I am likely blue eyed. With Y-DNA line Anglo-European, likely to share same surname. Brought up a Methodist, by a mother raised Catholic. The Methodist are on my Y-DNA side, so if Jews became Christians, the Christian Catholics, became Anglican then Episcopalian, then Methodist, overseas what would my family’s likely faith be. Likely be in a region of Methodist-Episcopalians-Anglicans, and may be normally Catholic. https://www.historyireland.com/early-modern-history-1500-1700/sheep-stealers-from-the-north-of-england-the-riding-clans-in-ulster-by-robert-bell/ Family is living with Armstrong where they were exiled to Ireland, and the EU/Brexit border raps around us. But since I am born into as a Y-DNA male, blond haired blue eyed like chief Margaret, but hair a little darker, been our tribal Elliot 29th chief for over thirty years, and was doing genealogy when her father Sir Arthur was the 28th chief and of Redheugh, a fortress outpost the Ellot (Scot’s spelling without the French ‘i’). To not be ‘prejudice’, must be anti-WASP. Can’t help whether I was born that way. Armstrong, which guarded the border lands, and the Elliot which soldiered the Hermitage castle to kept the kingdoms of England and Scotland separate, the army of Scotland. Today’s Scottish Ministry have in their plans to build a Windy Edge Wind farm next to the Hermitage Castle the castle north of Redheugh which my ancestors soldiered over five hundred years ago. If Natives of American complain about a pipeline going through their land in American, Anglo Europeans are the first to indicate they are not prejudice. If I mention there is plans for a Windy Edge wind farm being built next to The Hermitage Castle which my Elliott Clan and 29th chief Margaret of Redheugh, https://elwald.com/clan-elliot-29th-chief-margaret-eliott-of-redhuegh-stobs/ (sure she thinks of me as some sort of wild west US ‘vagabond’) one is not prejudice if they do not defend my family’s indigenous lands, when defending indigenous lands of people of America. Race in genetics is not black or white. A black man can carry similar Y-DNA as myself. Racism is when you defend indigenous lands, of Native Americans, then genocide indigenous lands of my race, of people which lived between the kingdoms, and made for America a self governing nation of free speech and religious freedoms, not one which I am being silenced by admins, and a non US company FTDNA which allows that, because the constitution of my nation’s state no matter what color of skin you have, though you may have the basically the same gene, and a black-white marriage is not genetically an inter-racial marriage. Even if you are born white and your indigenous lands are overseas, one has the right to defend them as their ancestors did over five hundred years ago, even though they may have and can not help it being born a WASP male. – Wha Daur Meddle Wi’ Me? http://www.rampantscotland.com/poetry/blpoems_daur.htm The Middle March Clan of the Scottish side of the border, the Armstrong, Elliot, Nixon and Crozier we stick together, do not care much what the others may say, we just pitch-in and feel the best will come of it. Over a half century ago, we were talking about peace on earth, and it was an Armstrong not on earth but on the moon which was talking to a Nixon on earth. https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/President-Nixon-speaking-with-astronauts-Armstrong-and-Aldrin-on-the-Moon.mp4 The Elwald to become Ellot, acquired the lands of Redheugh and Larriston, in the fifteenth century; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sasine_deed_1484_for_Robert_Elwald_%28Elliot%29,_Redheugh,_Larriston,_Hartsgarth.jpg Heart of ‘Angus’ which passed the lands to Robert Elwald X, is on the right of Sir James Douglas carred but died in process the heart of Robert the Bruce; https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Heart-of-Douglas.jpg Like

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Lee Bennett

41 minutes ago

Mark, As stated in my opening post on June 2, “I would ask that all posts be relevant to the interests of the group as a whole, and tie in to DNA and/or family genealogy of those with Yorkshire roots.” The above posting is both inappropriate and unrelated to our purpose. Please remove your most recent posting. We reserve the right to delete inappropriate material, without notice. Thanks for your cooperation.

Mark Elliott

25 minutes ago

Scarborough, and N&S Cave place names which my first twelve markers match are of East Riding Yorkshire. A Cromwellian War tax was charge to William Elwald of Cottingham, East Riding, Yorkshire, may family was transported as Royalist ‘slaves’, as today’s UK Parliament states after being banish from both kingdoms. My Y-DNA is of the Elwald of Yorkshire. https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/SELLING-SCOTS-AS-SLAVES-IS-FUNNY-TO-THE-TORIES-2.mp4 Can silence people like Harvard did for witches, or adjust the family history to match the DNA science. The Elwald of Cottingham, tided into the Cave-Wake of the area have the same Anglican Royalist value set as my forefather, and that is why we were silenced by and now laugh at by the government of genocide with united and exiled and exterminated border Armstrong and Elliott, which fought for Charles II, and were as today’s UK’s Tories which my patriotic ancestors strung up. Transported or Cromwellian Taxed with estates usurped from them in Yorkshire. Charles II did become king and the Duke of Buccleuch, and Prince Williams are his descendants. The UK and FTDNA may not have freedom of speech, but I descended from ancestor which separate from UK, and nation was built of those premises. Choice is it the science of Hitler’s Superior Race, witch hanging Harvard grads insuring that they are believed to be at the top of the ‘status quo’, of the science of sharing as with all science, genetics and genealogy. The above most definitely applies to Yorkshire, scientific DNA, genetics, and shared genealogy. It does not apply to them when free speech is excluded, only witch hanging conformed ‘status quo’, Harvard style of silencing for science which produces a not a society of equality and correcting the information silenced, but insuring it’s silence by making sure it is not be incorporated. This silencing will be a demonstration that FTDNA is truly not a US firm. Yes the above definitely deals with my DNA, family history, and the science of distribution and numerical modeling. If exclude FTDNA does not support these values.

Javalit (liti) Kitiyakara has a question!

July 11 @ 7:03pm

“Are there any clues as to surnames or DNA prevalence in various parts of Yorkshire? For instance, my recent Yorkshire ancestors lived in Hull, but prior to the 19th century I have ancestors in a number of small towns and villages further inland. My other question is about the the Photo section of the group. What sort of photographs can be uploaded? I would love to see old pictures of members’ ancestral homes or the parts of Yorkshire from which their family originated. ”

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Lee Bennett

July 11 @ 9:59pm

For surnames prevalent in Yorkshire at the time of the 1881 Census, see https://britishsurnames.co.uk/1881census/wiltshire. All photos, in good taste, related to Yorkshire places, families and individuals would be welcome. You can upload a photo, then post descriptive text to go with it.

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Javalit (liti) Kitiyakara

July 12 @ 10:56am

That a great site for surnames! Thank you, Lee.

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Mark Elliott

July 6 @ 9:07pm

For some surnames County Mapper, as census based UK program may come in useful. Surname limited, doesn’t cover them all. http://scaledinnovation.com/gg/countyMapper.html https://named.publicprofiler.org/

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Javalit (liti) Kitiyakara

July 11 @ 7:06pm

Since the Atkinson surname is found most frequently in Yorkshire, I was wondering if most could be descended from the same distant ancestor, or is it more likely that there were several unrelated lines of the Atkinson surname in Yorkshire?

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Lee Bennett

July 11 @ 9:56pm

Aside from DNA, it would make sense that where groups of the same surname were clustered in a particular area, that they would likely be related. But, that is not something that can automatically be assumed. Perhaps someone can answer to the actual facts, in Yorkshire.

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Javalit (liti) Kitiyakara

July 5 @ 8:53pm

Hello All! My name is Liti and I have Yorkshire roots from my maternal grandmother’s side going back as far as I can through mt-DNA. Both of her parents were from Hull, but it is only through the female line that my Yorkshire ancestors go back at least to the mid-17th century, possibly further. (Her father didn’t settle in Yorkshire until the 19th century.) I live in the United States and find it very difficult to learn much about the history of Yorkshire. My interest is mostly in the history of the lives, customs, various town & villages, surname history etc., especially in a way that ties into genealogy and cant paint a picture of who my ancestors were and what their lives were like. I get most of my information from parish registers available on Find My Past, and have become fairly proficient at reading the handwriting in the earliest records, but I have so much more to learn. I look forward to getting to know other members!

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Mark Elliott

July 5 @ 11:38pm

Your name seems to be East India – Thailand. It is customary that Yorkshire surnames travel the Y-DNA line. Would you know the surname of the father?

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Javalit (liti) Kitiyakara

July 6 @ 12:06pm

You are right, Mark, my surname is Thai. I was born in the USA to a Thai father and a mother of British and German descent. My Yorkshire roots are through my mother and not through Thailand. My mother’s mother was born in Hull, where she lived until her mother’s death and her father’s remarriage. Her surname was Bridgeman and mother’s maiden name was Dearing and that is the mitochondrial line I am researching. Before Dearing the mothers’ surnames are Longhorn, Flint, Peach, Atkinson, Tune, Copley and I think Hewson, Up until the Atkinson line I believe my research is accurate, but the earlier one gets the more difficult it is to trace the female line, especially as quite a few of my male ancestors were married more than once. There are other long time Yorkshire ancestors that are direct ancestors, through the Epworth surname, the maiden name of my 2nd great-grandfather who married a Bridgeman. My Bridgeman ancestor came from Norfolk and settled in Hull in the 19th century.

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Lee Bennett

July 6 @ 2:18pm

Welcome to our group, Liti! I hope you find the Yorkshire connections you seek.

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Javalit (liti) Kitiyakara

July 6 @ 4:33pm

Thank you Lee! I will probably never get to visit Yorkshire, but I look forward to learning more.

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Mark Elliott

July 6 @ 2:35pm

https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3422008?dpr=2&fit=max&h=266&w=590 Y-DNA seems to be crossing paths with the Atkinson [son of Atkin(s)], showing base name distribution of ‘hotspots’ using; https://named.publicprofiler.org/ In Rimington; History The village was listed in the Domesday Book as “Renistone”. The name Boulton (Bolton) is listed in land deeds of 1302,[3] and Robert Elwald son of Alan listed 1304.[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rimington Have Y-DNA matches with ‘de Cave’, of North and South Cave of East Riding, Yorkshire. https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3600586?dpr=2&fit=max&h=351&w=590

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Mark Elliott

July 6 @ 1:21pm

Javalit (liti) Kitiyakara, “My Bridgeman ancestor came from Norfolk and settled in Hull in the 19th century.” note; “Canon Bridgeman” Autosomal; https://www.peopleofthebritishisles.org/population-genetics Garrett Hellenthal – The Genetic History of the United Kingdom: the POBI project on Youtube. Most my county McKinley, New Mexico, USA, is of the Navajo people, which clan-ship travel mtDNA. When Anglo-European surnames travel Y-DNA. Have been pre-DNA travel the mother’s mother’s line which mtDNA follows with help from dad from Cork to Dublin region into County Lancashire, England; https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/H27a-mtDNA-FTDNA-101829.jpg Likely from East Anglia to Germany/Denmark, North Poland then Finland being mtDNA, H27a. https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/23andME-Geni-FTDNA-mtDNA-H27a-Ryan-Murph-Smith-Croak..jpg Am myself Y-DNA related to the Atkinson, which likely migrated from Yorkshire, to the Borders, into the Ulster Plantation of North Ireland; https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3422008?dpr=2&fit=max&h=266&w=590

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Bruce Lambert

June 24 @ 1:18am

A big hello to all members of the Yorkshire project. I am not sure I am posting in the correct forum but I am seeking any information I can for my father, whose DNA kit I manage. My father (Bruce Lambert) has worked over 40 years to put together his family history; most of it pre-internet. He has traced his earliest known relatives to Yorkshire where the family had resided for quite a few generations. His earliest traceable relative was a William Lambert b. 1685. William married a Hannah Matthews and/or later, an Anne Mathers on Dec 28th, 1710 in Bradford Cathedral. He had the following children-Sarah Lambert abt. 1710, Thomas Lambert 1720 (Idle, Bradford, Yorkshire), Mary Lambert ?, and Hannah Lambert? We have also joined the Lambert Project but with the level of testing done, we have no matches with the name Lambert. It seems that perhaps somewhere along the line his surname may have been different. We are hoping to connect with any family members from the Bradford area. The closest DNA matches to date are at genetic distance 3, so fairly removed. Would love to hear from anyone in the project with ideas for us to go on with in order to find closer relatives initially and perhaps links to William Lambert’s father? -James b. abt 1600

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Mark Elliott

June 26 @ 8:55am

“The closest DNA matches to date are at genetic distance 3, so fairly removed. ” In how many markers, 12, 25, or 37 ? If it is 37 markers it is significant, and would like to know the surname match. Do you have any exact matches at 25, or multiple matches with the same surname including variants at 12?

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Lee Bennett

June 26 @ 12:58pm

Welcome, Bruce Lambert! Did you know you can use Advanced Matches on your Home page to see if you have any matches who are also members within any group? I looked, on your behalf, but found no matches in this group, yet. However, while you wait for new Y-DNA matches, I suggest you broaden your scope a bit by ordering a FamilyFinder (autosomal DNA) test. That test might locate matches (cousins) from Yorkshire, or offer more clues to your family origins, beyond your surname line.

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Lee Bennett

June 28 @ 2:17pm

Bruce Lambert, I discovered my own Lambert ancestor, and Yorkshire connection, via Francis Lambert, born 1587 in Staffordshire. He married Jane Barker (b 1600), in Birstall, Yorkshire. They immigrated to Rowley, Massachusetts in 1640. They are my 10th great grandparents. They had a daughter, Ann Lambert, born 1636, in W. Yorkshire. Ann married Thomas Nelson, born 1636, in Cottingham, Yorkshire. They also migrated to Rowley, MA with their 7 children.

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Mark Elliott

June 26 @ 9:42am

https://forebears.io/surnames/lambert https://named.publicprofiler.org/ Bruce Lambert, Your Lambert? Misspelled on map, but Caltonhall of the Lambert link; http://www.kirkbymalham.info/KMI/calton/caltonhall.html “de Lambert” means of Lambert, has been for some names coming out of France been indicative of being from a French Locality of an individual now in what is now referred to as England. The ‘de’ (of) is dropped then the locality name becomes the surname. Map search Lambert, France, and it will show that Lambert is used many times as a place name in France. In France and Belgium the name is common. “Fitz’ above means ‘son of’, and sometimes incorporated into surnames like Fitzpatrick, and Fitzgerald. When I see something like ‘Hugo Fitz Radulph de Lambert’, I go somewhat crazy with the name with something like ‘Hugh the son of Ralph from Lambert’. If the guy is from Norway, may sub ‘Rudolf’ for ‘Ralph’.

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Mark Elliott

June 27 @ 6:19am

Note; Eliot (Breton, French) + Ellot (Angus, Scot) = Elliot. Though the name ‘Lambert’ seems to be of Flanders-Breton, France the name in England, I feel was adopted closer to Bedford, England, from someone of the region which was of ‘de Lambert’ a Lambert of Belgium-France. Check your Y-DNA matches for seeing where your Y-DNA line may be from. The FTDNA Y-DNA ‘matches map’ is a good tool for this. ‘William de Conquer’ story seems to work for name origins. https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/De-of-Aliot-in-southern-France-name-in-Aliot-in-north-became-Eliot.jpg, but not necessarily for the Y-DNA the English ‘Lambert’ are carrying. There are ‘Aliot’ in southern France, more north in Breton ‘Eliot’, 29th chiefs Margaret Eliott of Redheugh, Scotland of lands acquired in the 15th century Sir Arthur her father had this to say; https://www.electricscotland.com/webclans/dtog/elliot65.jpg Was doing genealogy when Margaret’s father was chief, his daughter has been an excellent one maintaining the history of the Redheugh family past down to her through the generations. She has been chief for more than three decades. This is the sasine-deed information to the land obtain. (many great William Elwald of Gorrenberry); https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sasine_deed_1484_for_Robert_Elwald_%28Elliot%29,_Redheugh,_Larriston,_Hartsgarth.jpg Lands of Larriston are included as in poem; https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Elliot140-1.jpg The Redhuegh Elwald/Ellot which own the lands of Redheugh and Larriston; Robert as with all the previous chiefs moved to Larriston as map shows; https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/1590-Liddesdale-March-map.png The 1704 pedigree-tree shows that these Ellot now called feuded with the Armstrong. In the song; Gorrenberry is next to Mangerton. Thomas Armstrong brother to Johnie Armstrong in which a gallant company of ‘Eliot (Ellot), and Armstrang’ rode together, and were hung by James V, ca1530, own land on the west side of Gorrenberry referred to as ‘Billhope’, as shown in names for assertion; https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Elwald_people_of_the_forested_groves_ca_1540.jpg ‘Assedantur Thome Armistrang de Meriantoun’, Thomas Army-strong of Mangerton, which is Johnie’s Armstrong’s brother.

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Mark Elliott

June 14 @ 12:00pm

https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3613170?dpr=2&fit=max&h=397&w=590 Enlargement of above which can also be accomplished by right clicking on image and opening in new tab. The ‘-would’ in ‘Elwould’, likely traveled from Yorkshire. https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/blaeu-1650-Yorkes-Would.jpg 1650 Blaeu map with ‘Yorkes Would’ (York Wolds [woods]) on it. 1579 Saxton map of region where places are listed in The Border Papers by James V. Elliott. Older background map upper right on above image. https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Saxton-1579.jpg The Border Papers: 1560-1594.- Vol. 2. 1595-1603 Great Britain. Public Record Office H.M. General Register House, 1894 – Great Britain https://books.google.com/books?id=tNINAQAAMAAJ&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&dq=Calendar+of+Border+Papers&source=gbs_navlinks_s https://named.publicprofiler.org/ Elliott and Border Reiver site by James V. Elliott https://sites.rootsweb.com/~gallgaedhil/

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Lee Bennett

June 15 @ 1:01am

Mark, When posting to our Yorkshire Group, please give a description of any links you offer. We want to be sure all links are appropriate, relevant and safe for our members.

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Mark Elliott

May 27 @ 10:05am

https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Peter,1890:Petersen https://forebears.io/surnames/petersen

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Mark Elliott

June 2 @ 10:18am

https://www.familytreedna.com/public/peterson?iframe=ycolorized good proportion of I-M253.

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Mark Elliott

June 1 @ 10:58pm

https://archive.org/details/chroniclesofarms00arms/page/31/mode/2up Little (Liddel), Glendenning (of Scotland), and Elwald/Ellot/Elliot of R-L193 Elwald/Ellot/Elliot Fairbairn (Fairy Bear) I-M253 https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Fairbairn-I-M253-Elliott-Viking-add-mix-James-Irvine-Irwin-FTDNA.png https://named.publicprofiler.org/ Surnames Gresham-Grisham-Grissom, Cave, Scarborough, and Elwald added surnames to relation carrying the same 12 given markers, likely from across the North Sea. Gresham (Castle), Norfolk, North and South Cave of East Riding Yorkshire, and Scarborough (Castle), North Yorkshire, giving location place surnames of Gresham-Grisham-Grissom, Cave, and Scarborough. https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3600586?dpr=2&fit=max&h=351&w=590 https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3516762?dpr=2&fit=max&h=445&w=590 An early resident of Bec was Alanus Elfwold (1248). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beck_Hall

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Mark Elliott

June 1 @ 1:54pm

If I could have chosen, my ancestors I’ve sure would have picked better than someone likely in on the slaughter of a ‘Hugh Douglas’, and another known to be about the biggest thief in Liddesdale. At least being those individuals, they left a paper trail to follow. Pretty good for a ‘Cowie’, which is intended to leave no trail at all.

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Mark Elliott

9 minutes ago

https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3584331?dpr=2&fit=max&h=304&w=590 https://www.familytreedna.com/public/elliott?iframe=ycolorized https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Haas,1890:Haase https://named.publicprofiler.org/

Mark Elliott

May 11 @ 12:41pm

https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3578944?dpr=2&fit=max&h=232&w=590 Click right, to open larger image in new window. https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Kempf,1890:Kempe,1890:Kemp https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Ligon

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Mark Elliott

May 10 @ 1:58pm

https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3578233?dpr=2&fit=max&h=365&w=590 For the R-U106 Proto-Germanic, Saxon-Anglo Danish, Slavic, of kempe, German of kemp, Dutch of kamp, and English of camp. This shows the migration of Anglo-Saxons, Slavic-Germanic-Dans, migrating from regions of Saxon place names, onto Saxony Germany to today’s border, of German-Denmark, on to East Anglia, as shown by the PoBI Peoples of the British Isles DNA project onto the the Anglo-Scottish Border, into North Ireland Ulster region and for many Kemp onto America. https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Kemp?iframe=ycolorized https://www.familytreedna.com/public/VanCamp?iframe=ycolorized Only applicable for the R-U106 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOjDeSAEv9s&list=PL6fQm1L943nCKmLtmK9K-JKPiD3pdUxPI&index=134 https://www.peopleofthebritishisles.org/ https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Daniel-DNA-tree.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tullykelter_Castle https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Camp,1890:Kemp,1890:Kempe,1890:Kamp https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Kamp,1890:Kempf,1890:Kemp https://named.publicprofiler.org/ https://forebears.io/surnames/camp https://forebears.io/surnames/kamp https://forebears.io/surnames/kemp https://forebears.io/surnames/kempe

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Mark Elliott

May 3 @ 3:29pm

https://www.rootstech.org/video/you-can-do-dna Brigham ‘This is the Place’ genealogy with DNA applied – Purpose of the Brigham surname UK migration, is to put the Y-DNA into the hands of family researchers. YOU CAN DO DNA, as The DNA Guide Team says. The Mormon men, even stand a side for these ladies. The Mormons like to sometimes think they are part of mainstream, showing history on how their ladies were able to get the vote. Lived in Wyoming, when a lady asked for the vote, the men knew what they were getting into if they turned them down. Ladies for a continuance of vote, about a half century before the US and UK in Wyoming were voting, and Ester H. Morris became Wyoming’s hero with a statue in front of the statehouse, and the US Capitol. Brigham Young a good Anglo-Reiver name, hero to the State of Utah, and Brigham Young University only university with a four year program in genealogy, offering their church to their ancestors, wanted women to vote. The US government felt at the time he had to many wifes for this to be allowed. The Mormon ladies, mainly in populations of Utah, Wyoming, Idaho, and Colorado, the states in which ladies could vote, before the rest of the US had the right to vote. Those Mormon, men are almost as bad as those men of Wyoming cowboys, allowing those ladies to vote. As far as family history is concerned these ladies having been mom’s unlike James and I, most likely can easily make the use of DNA in finding family, understandable, and free from single corporation influence. Ladies received governmental positions within Wyoming, likely because they did not have occupational (corporate) conflict of interest like their male counter parts did. The DNA Guide Team is independent to the corporations. https://www.yourdnaguide.com/about

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Mark Elliott

April 26 @ 11:10pm

https://forebears.io/surnames/birge David Birge, Big question, can it happen?

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April 25 @ 3:15pm

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April 24 @ 10:15am

Wilkens surname distribution; https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Wilkens https://forebears.io/surnames/wilkens https://named.publicprofiler.org/

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Mark Elliott

April 19 @ 7:39pm

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April 18 @ 11:01am

Click right, open in new link for larger image. Stephanie Ray, This one’s for Yorkshire.

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Mark Elliott

April 16 @ 11:16am

https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3542906?dpr=2&fit=max&h=492&w=590 Anna-Hannah Cloyes-Cloyse Elliott, lost a child after her first, in Salem Massachusetts in 1690. The spectra of Wm Hobbs was being accused in the death of her child. She was the oldest daughter of Anna-Hannah Littlefield and Peter Cloyse-Cloyes son of seaman John Cloyse which brought indentured Daniel Ellot/Elliot to America c1650. It is felt because she was the oldest when Peter remarried a Sarah Bridges Town, that the marriage between indentured Daniel’s son and Anna-Hannah Cloyse-Cloyes was arranged. Peter left two brothers in the town of Wells, Maine, originally founded by his father-in-law Edmund Littlefield of Wells, Maine. John oldest named after seaman John Cloyse, and Nathaniel, both used as names of children of Daniel and Anna-Hannah Elliott. Rev George Burroughs, of Wells, Maine was hung in the Salem Trials along with two Town older sisters to Sarah Town Bridges Cloyes-Cloyse, Peter’s second wife, Rebecca Nurse and Mary Eastey.

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Mark Elliott

April 11 @ 10:02am

Though been trying to test downstream on my SNP with FTDNA, it does not seem to allow me to. So went with Yseq on R-A6719 and R-A6722, this gave me a testing value below that which 23andME was able to returned and when I tested FTDNA R-S16361. They came up the same. A corporation is able to control which SNP can be tested and therefore the outcome of there restricted data set, by restricting people which are in given FTDNA data groups. The outcome is only as good as the data it uses an that is why I have been behind the data procedures of PoBI all the way; https://www.peopleofthebritishisles.org/ A response from a Co-Admin no Admin; Bradley McGuire 9 minutes ago I understand your point here Mark. However, each lab has their own set of “standards” or cut off points regarding the quality of the marker or SNP. I look at the position of a named SNP to check for other folks nomenclature. There are many, many SNPs with more than one “name” L513 is DF1 and S215…all depends on which list you are looking at.

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Mark Elliott

April 9 @ 7:52pm

Click right button then ‘Open image in new tab’ for enlargement. Next to Maguire as a surname in County Fermanagh, Johnston, of the Scottish Johnstone is second. https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Johnson/default.aspx?section=yresults https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Carruthers?iframe=yresults Wonder where that I-CTS11603 Y-DNA is from. https://named.publicprofiler.org/ Carruthers likely from a single male I-CTS11603 Y-DNA, which does not seem to have any matches to the Brus/Bruce family but relation of Mouswald Carruthers, seem to share the same shield with the Pickering of Oswaldkirk, Yorkshire, Brus/Bruce family relations. Noted, share Y-DNA first 12 markers with Cave ‘de Cave’, and Scarborough. The Bruce had land of Cave, North and South, in east Riding Yorkshire, and in Annandale, land also of the Nicholas Stuteville (Nicholforest), and Wake families. The Stuteville had land of Gresham Castle, and Scarborough region, also of The Mote, which had Liddel Strength Castle on it of the Wake and Stuteville. No previous is pretty rough, but feel people are checking the research. https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Clan-Johnston.mp4

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Mark Elliott

April 8 @ 2:05pm

Listen to the chief though she may think of me as a wild west US ‘vagabond’; https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/The-Elliot-Clan-by-Newcastleton-Primary-School-Scots-Language-Project-2018-1.mp4 To Derek James Stewart ‘Wha daur Meddle wi Me?’ Mark Stephen Elliott http://www.rampantscotland.com/poetry/blpoems_daur.htm

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Martin Styan

April 8 @ 3:36pm

The original St. Oswald was King of Northumbria in the 7th century. He founded the monastery on the Holy Island of Lindisfarne and played a leading part in establishing Christianity in the North of England. He also became known on the continent, especially in Bavaria and Austria.

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Martin Styan

April 8 @ 3:39pm

“Kirk” is the general old northern word for church, found in a number of Yorkshire place names. Standard English comes from the area around London, Oxford and Cambridge. Until the end of the Middle Ages, Yorkshire was closer in language to Edinburgh than to London.

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Mark Elliott

April 8 @ 6:30pm

Martin I found both era if Oswald, king of 7th century and Saint of 10th Century, felt the church in the day with region found the Saint Oswald of York 10th Century would be combined with the word ‘kirk’, given also localities, though the Castle of Saint/King Oswald 7th century is likely, but can not make any conclusions without further information. Also as Martin Styan state found the work ‘kirk’ used elsewhere. For the migration both Oswald of both periods would be of Anglo-Danish background. Which also indicates the Anglo-Danish nature of my R-U106 Y-DNA, with the nature of what is referred to as the Anglo-Scottish Border.

Mark Elliott

April 6 @ 11:17am

https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3542370?dpr=2&fit=max&h=283&w=590 A Dictionary of the Older Scottish Tongue (up to 1700) https://dsl.ac.uk/entry/dost/riddill_v Riddil(l, v. Also: ryddill, rid(d)le. [ME and e.m.E. ridle(n (Ancr. R.), rydelyn (Prompt. Parv.), riddle (1570); Riddil(l n.2] tr. 1. To sift or refine by passing through a riddle. fig., with personal object, after Luke xxii 31 (see also Nisbet, after Purvey). https://www.google.com/maps/place/Riddell,+Melrose+TD6+9JP,+UK/@55.5090501,-2.7729008,15z/ https://www.google.com/maps/place/Whitton,+Kelso+TD5+8QX,+UK/@55.4833322,-2.3920878,15z/ https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ryedale+District,+UK/@54.1981063,-1.1221973,10z/ Do not in a family search, get rid of the in-laws, though you may want to.

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Mark Elliott

April 5 @ 3:08pm

https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3541644?dpr=2&fit=max&h=288&w=590 For the Moffat ally; https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/The-Reivers-Making-of-the-Borders-Alistair-Moffat-2.mp4 For the R-L193 Crozier-Elliott relatives; Group 4 – R1b-L21 > L193 (predicted) Matching to Elliotts. 319301 Crosier Adam Crosier (b. 1751 in Scotland, d. 1829) Scotland R-M269 429646 Crozier John Crozier born 1782 Durham died? England R-BY14138 https://gorrenberry.com/elliot-glendinning-r-l193-sub-l513/ Of Scottish Middle March; https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/President-Nixon-speaking-with-astronauts-Armstrong-and-Aldrin-on-the-Moon.mp4 https://www.historyireland.com/early-modern-history-1500-1700/sheep-stealers-from-the-north-of-england-the-riding-clans-in-ulster-by-robert-bell/

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Mark Elliott

April 4 @ 3:28pm

One does not get rid of the in-laws. Like (note; feel FTDNA Clan Irwin Surname of James M. Irwin, and myself feel this is about as far back as I can go with my Y-DNA) Write a comment… Mark ElliottMark Elliott 5 hours ago Maurice Anderson 5 hours ago Hi Mark. The group Administrators do not have access to you kit, which I assume is kit 101829 in the name of Mark Stephen Elliott. You have only given the Administrators ” Limited Access” in order to investigate your match with the Anderson group. This Anderson match on this kit only appears to be at the y-DNA 12 match. Is this your kit number? I do find the information you have added very interesting however. Like Mark Elliott 1 hour ago Maurice Anderson, Paid money for data, and to use that data to do extend my family history. No one can do family history unless all are allowed to speak freely. FTDNA has kicked me off several blogs. That is not allowing for my free speech. It does not do me any good if eventually I develop this free speech if I am the only one not allowed to be kicked out of blogs. Do not have free speech on many blogs that is why I circumvent on other blogs. It is part of my most conservative believes as soon as my family came from the UK, to me they have the Union-Jack and laugh people as Royalists fighting in the Battle of Dunbar being ‘transported as slaves to the colonies’; https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/SELLING-SCOTS-AS-SLAVES-IS-FUNNY-TO-THE-TORIES-2.mp4?_=1 Mine were transported to the Colony of Massachusetts. Where a Scottish tourist has the virus; https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/scot-barbados-field-hospital-after-21808977 Some of the first Scots there arrived in Barbados in the 1650s. https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Scottish-Barbados-Indentures.mp4?_=2 A school called Harvard produced high educated types which came high in the church and judges in the witch trials. Many great testified in defense of Elizabeth Proctor; https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Daniel-Elliot-Salem-1692-testimony.jpg Y-DNA verifies this; https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/A6724.jpg One of the people which produced the science for witch hangings felt this about William Penn; https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Cotton-Mather-Wm-Penn-2.jpg To have people dismiss people is like having the Harvard Cotton Mather give science for their day for hanging witches, or Hitler having scientists which agree with him produce a superior race. One can not steer away from ones own beliefs, to do family history-genealogy, because those beliefs, with me in my conservatism Mar 28, 1692 of my many verified by Y-DNA great is people get to speak freely when doing family history. The Constitution of my nation was written in Philadelphia, a town first settled by William Penn and his people, what would happen to freedom of speech and religion in the American Constitution if William Penn and his people were as Cotton Mather a Puritan a supporter of Cromwell would have done. It is those Harvard Puritanical ideologies in Boston which hung witches and Quakers for their expression of speaking freely and Mary Dyer a Quaker in Boston for her religious freedoms. Though the Latter Day Saints and the Jews, and of tribes of Israel are of the chosen people, been utilizing the services because of the beliefs of a tribe of Israel, which came to America, and offers what they call baptism to their ancestors. Always in the utilization at first the largest data base pre-web, never in a half century was I ever censored from utilizing materials in their library which many are being made available online, nor do people which I share (genealogy-family history is sharing not dictating), family history with shares their, and this is how people naturally do it. To constrain it by people that are these Harvard Puritan types, does not allow the free flow of family history among people, and any FTDNA which has administrators which constrain this free flow is not a genealogical family history site. There are some blog with do not have administrators, and just co-administrators which can not dismiss people for what they say about these families. These blogs which just have co-administrators, and no administrator, are genealogical family history blogs of FTDNA. Unless all have the right to speak freely as in the Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Utah, on the FTDNA blogs, accurate family history can not be truly found with FTDNA which follows a corporate structure to silence people to try to maximize their profits. Like Mark Elliott 15 minutes ago The chief’s https://elwald.com/clan-elliot-29th-chief-margaret-eliott-of-redhuegh-stobs/ family was given a large dowry to marry into the Scots of Harden. Good old George Fox convinced part of the family of Harden to become Quakers, about 1657 and they imprison him in Edinburgh; (don’t have to read you have your own family histories to discover, though it is by Walter Scot) Raeburn is near https://maps.nls.uk/view/00000402#zoom=5&lat=3688&lon=5693&layers=BT the Irvine of Bonshaw, and where Kinmont Willie Armstrong is buried, who the Scots of Harden, and part of my Gorrenberry family helped to rescue from Carlisle Castle, along with some Bell, and Armstrong; https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/HISTORY-HUNTERS-Kinmont-Willie-Armstrong.mp4 There is an old proverb which assures that truth be told by laughing; La Prision d’Édimbourg (The Prision of Edinburgh) By Walter Scott “2 There is an old proverb which assures that truth be told by laughing. The existence Walter Scott third son of Sir William Scott of Harden is educated as they say by charter bearing the great seal Domino William Scott of Harden militi and Walter Scott “suo legitimo tertio genito terrarum” (world,legitimate begotten) of Roberton. (See the Baronage of Douglas page 215). The old gentleman left his four sons considerable estates and gave those of Eilrig de Raeburn to his third. He who is the ancestor of Scott Raeburn and Waverly. author 11 Appears to have converted to the Quakers or Friends’ doctrine and became a great advocate of principles. It was probably when George Fox, the apostle of the sect, made a nun in the north of Scotland about 1657 AD. It is on this occasion that he says that as soon as the horse had set foot on the land of Scotland he felt the seed of grace shining around him like countless sparks. At the same time no doubt that Sir Gideon of Highchester’s second son William and the ancestor of the friend and parent of the author the representative of the family of Harden also embraced Quakerism. Gideon the latter converted entered into controversy with the Rev. James Kirkton author of the true and secret history of Scotland, which is mentioned by my ingenious friend Charles Kirkpatrick Sharpe in this remarkable and curious edition of this work in 1817. Sir William Scott, the Brethren of the Brothers, remained in the midst of this defection an orthodox member of the church Presbyterian and us a uproot Walter de Raeburn to his heresy means that were more of persecution than persuasion. He was helped in his efforts by MacDougal of Makerston brother of Isabelle MacDougal wife of Walter and who like her husband had adopted the religion of Quakers Sir William Scott’s influence and that of Makerston were powerful enough to obtain two subsequent acts of the Privy Council of Scotland against Walter de Raeburn as heretic quakerism the co-inventor to be imprisoned first in the Edinburgh….” https://books.google.com/books?id=Q8IBc4HvDSgC&pg=PA10&dq=%22Walter+de+Raeburn%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiDguOZh9PYAhVD32MKHR69DOkQ6AEISjAE#v=onepage&q=%22Walter%20de%20Raeburn%22&f=false Please let me know which links are not working right, I will see if I can do something to repair them. (added note; please do not get me in trouble with chief Margaret, 17th cousin twice removed, sure she thinks of me as some sort of wanted ‘vagabond’ from the wild west of the USA)

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Mark Elliott

April 3 @ 12:05pm

https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3539621?dpr=2&fit=max&h=288&w=590 https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/ballads-of-the-Border-Reivers..mp4 https://historyireland.com/early-modern-history-1500-1700/sheep-stealers-from-the-north-of-england-the-riding-clans-in-ulster-by-robert-bell/ https://electricscotland.com/webclans/atoc/clancrozier.pdf http://clancrozier.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Nixsoun-Nixon.jpg

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Mark Elliott

April 1 @ 12:58pm

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April 1 @ 11:22am

https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3537637?dpr=2&fit=max&h=186&w=590 FTDNA R-L513 and Subclades The reason for the R-U106 and R-193 match, is that it is many generations ago, and the names evolved from Elwald/Ewald of Germany, Ellwood (North England), Ellot (Angus/Scotlan), Ellot + Eliot (England/France) became Elliot c.1650, family was in arrival to the American Colony them. Migration from Scotland to Ulster to America also took place with the R-L193 Glendinning of Glendinning Scotland, County Tyrone Ulster, Ireland, and into Mt. Ayr, Iowa, Rice Township Ringgold County, USA of my family of Elliott. https://elwald.com/ftdna-r-l513-and-subclades/ https://gorrenberry.com/ftdna-r-l513-and-subclades/

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Mark Elliott

March 31 @ 11:19am

http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland/genealogy/muster/tullyhogue1610.html https://maps.nls.uk/view/00000400#zoom=5&lat=3690&lon=5085&layers=BT https://www.familytreedna.com/public/R-L513?iframe=ycolorized https://gorrenberry.com/elliot-glendinning-r-l193-sub-l513/ Likely no relatives you want to claim.

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Mark Elliott

March 30 @ 4:26pm

https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3534525?dpr=2&fit=max&h=319&w=590 https://www.google.com/maps/place/The+Old+Schoolhouse+-+Glendinning+Farm+Cottages/@55.2530267,-3.1060402,17z/ https://maps.nls.uk/view/00000400#zoom=5&lat=3690&lon=5085&layers=BT https://dsl.ac.uk/entry/dost/glen_n_1 https://dsl.ac.uk/entry/dost/dinning https://dsl.ac.uk/entry/dost/mont_v https://dsl.ac.uk/entry/dost/air_n_2 Would you believe it, that the Glendenning, are from Glendinning? Glendenning census distribution ‘hot spot’, Glendinning, Scotland, UK, and sub-‘hot spot’, County Tyrone, Ulster, Ireland. https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Glendinning-n-300×300.jpg Glendinning and Ellott (ie Elliott) of County Tyrone, Ireland 1610; http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland/genealogy/muster/tullyhogue1610.html

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Mark Elliott

March 28 @ 1:22pm

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March 28 @ 1:22pm

Note ‘Sinclair’ movement above; http://www.stclairresearch.com/content/groupingsVa-R-L193-DNA.html https://gorrenberry.com/elliot-glendinning-r-l193-sub-l513/

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March 27 @ 8:42pm

https://named.publicprofiler.org/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beck_Hall https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Ewald,1890:Eichwald https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms10408.pdf?origin=ppub

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March 27 @ 1:01pm

https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3532578?dpr=2&fit=max&h=304&w=590 https://archive.org/details/chroniclesofarms00arms/page/29/mode/2up https://maps.nls.uk/view/00000400#zoom=5&lat=3687&lon=6223&layers=BT https://www.historyireland.com/early-modern-history-1500-1700/sheep-stealers-from-the-north-of-england-the-riding-clans-in-ulster-by-robert-bell/ https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/If-you-do-not-like-an-EU-Border-around-County-Fermanagh-the-solution-is-to-move-to-Germany..jpg https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Maguire,1996:Maguire,1890:Johnstone,1996:Johnstone,1890:Armstrong,1996:Armstrong,1890:McManus,1996:McManus,1890:Elliott,1996:Elliott https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Albert-Bird-Armstrong-genealogists.png https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/antiquity/article/people-of-the-british-isles-project-and-viking-settlement-in-england/54E19CAFF9AC2BEB39EAEC826BEDBC63

Mark Elliott

March 26 @ 11:48am

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Brigham,+Driffield+YO25+8JW,+UK/@53.9694272,-0.3655686,15z/ https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Fox,1890:Fuchs https://forebears.io/surnames/fox https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/fox-dna/about/background has I-M253 Stephanie Ray of FTDNA Yorkshire is an excellent Co-Admin. The ones managed by Co-Admins such as Bradley McGuire of FTDNA Mag-Uidhir with no Admins are the best genealogical sites, because they can not dismiss people from their sites. Tried without success to get people on the Argyll Colony North Carolina site to riot, but so far have had no success at it. https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/yorkshire/dna-results https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/mag-uidhir/activity-feed https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/argyll-colony-north-carolina/activity-feed

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Mark Elliott

March 22 @ 9:35am

By: Pam Gibbens http://www.boone-dna.com/FTDNA.htm Greater Houston Weekly / Houston Chronicle April, 2006 Houston-Based Firm is the Largest Genealogical DNA Testing Company In the World More than 80 million people are Actively engaged in it. Numerous websites are inundated with hits from researchers. It’s the second largest and most popular hobby in the United State. What is it? “It” is genealogy, the study of one’s own history and heritage. The pursuit of the past inspires those interested in genealogy to unearth information about long lost relatives and their ancestral homes. While digging around, a few skeletons are sometimes found in the dark recesses of the family closet. Years ago, the duty of record keeping was usually left up to a family member who would scour the libraries and comb through records at the county courthouse to uncover tidbits of lives once lived. Kindly “Aunt Jane” would examine handwritten personal diaries, certificates of marriage and birth and death notices. Like solving a jigsaw puzzle, the process was tedious and time-consuming. Discerning delicious details about distant kin was both fascinating and frustrating. More often than not, a simmering paper trail would eventually grow cold. Today, genealogists and rank amateurs are discovering that their own family trees, with deep roots and expansive canopies of branches, twigs and leaves, are much more complex than they ever imagined. Thanks to the internet and the innovation of two Houston entrepreneurs, you don’t have to be a rocket scientist to be a genealogist. . . . . https://elwald.com/brigham-this-is-the-place-genealogy-with-dna-applied/

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March 21 @ 8:04pm

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March 21 @ 1:49am

https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/ECS-Daniel-group-history-1.png https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Gresham-and-Cave.png “With a combination of diligence, intuition, peer guidance, genealogical awareness and luck rather than a sophisticated knowledge of biology or mathematics I show that 37 STR markers are often quite sufficient to identify genetic families/surname branches, and one or two SNP Panel tests can be a very cost-effective follow-up to take many testees to near the forefront of this exciting application of citizen science.” James M. Irvine. https://ggi2013.blogspot.com/2017/10/james-irvine-speaker-profile.html

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Mark Elliott

March 19 @ 12:01pm

https://www.rootstech.org/video/you-can-do-dna

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Mark Elliott

March 19 @ 8:44am

Terri Stern 4 hours ago I met James at the Genetic Genealogy Ireland Conference in Belfast. He has a female Montgomery ancestor (not yet added to his tree at FTDNA) and I asked him to join the Montgomery Surname DNA Project. Unlike You like this Mark Elliott 27 minutes ago Hold him in very high esteem. A genealogist with over a half century of it as a hobby, like genealogy is to me. For us James and myself we have together have over a century of shared genealogical experience a lot previous to DNA, and now we’re both are applying DNA, from different directions which allows just to share, integrate, gather, and compile our combined knowledge. Genetic Genealogy Ireland 14-15 Feb 2020, ICC Waterfront Hall, Belfast – Using DNA to help the Family Tree Research of your Irish Ancestry SUNDAY, 8 OCTOBER 2017 James Irvine – Speaker Profile Title of Presentation GDPR, Privacy & Data Protection https://ggi2013.blogspot.com/2017/10/james-irvine-speaker-profile.html Put him into a popular web page I built; Just Google or Bing ‘Brigham DNA’, or use the following link; https://elwald.com/brigham-this-is-the-place-genealogy-with-dna-applied/ Brigham ‘This is the Place’ genealogy with DNA applied https://elwald.com/brigham-this-is-the-place-genealogy-with-dna-applied/ President Obama spoke at Waterfront Hall; https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/President-Obama-on-the-influence-of-Ulster-settlers-on-America..mp4 Wilson is a Scottish (border name) https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/ballads-of-the-Border-Reivers..mp4 Became Ulster Irish then on to America. https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/From-Ulster-to-US-surname-Wilson-2.mp4

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March 18 @ 12:32pm

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March 18 @ 12:15pm

Can’t help what my relatives do, especially when a Robert Ellot maliciously struck Edmund Ellot on the nose, before the altar of S. Nicholas, in 1530. From Where Does The Surname Originate? meaning and history This surname is derived from a geographical locality. ‘of Staley,’ now a parish called Staleybridge, near Ashton-under-Lyne, formerly Staveley, a common local name; v. Staveley — A Dictionary of English and Welsh Surnames (1896) by Charles Wareing Endell Bardsley (English) belonging to Staley (-Bridge), Chesh., 14th cent. Stavelegh, Staveley = the Stave-Lea (i.e. a meadow enclosed by staves: cp. ‘Hedgeley’) [Old English stæf + leáh] — Surnames of the United Kingdom (1912) by Henry Harrison https://forebears.io/surnames/staley Place Incidence 2014 US 23,474 England 2,096 Canada 582 Australia418

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March 15 @ 11:27pm

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March 15 @ 6:32am

https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3520084?dpr=2&fit=max&h=459&w=590 https://named.publicprofiler.org/ https://www.familytreedna.com/about Bennett Greenspan, Houston, do you have a problem? Do not know as excellent genealogists know, graphics in Google images, of names such as FTDNA Hammer, FTDNA Behar, FTDNA Estes, and FTDNA Riddell. The above is a pretty popular graphic. Test piloting your genealogical search knowledge base to see if you can be dependent on. Also testing your knowledge, on information to your customers to see if it can be relied upon. Such as multiple exact matches at time of surname adoption. Like that of Grisham with a Castle at time. Could have a name like Irvan de Grissom, meaning Irvan of Grissom castle, becoming Irvan Grissom, or even Gus Grissom of Mitchell, Indiana which gave his life for the space program in Houston. You math has something to be desire. About 2 out of 3 tested have exact 12 markers, 14 24 14 11 11-14 12 12 11 13 13 29 with are https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Denmark?iframe=yresults R1b-M269+>U106+>S19589+ 541 N174668 Niels Peder Rasmussen, b.1843 Maribo,Denmark Denmark R-S11493 14 24 14 12 11-14 12 12 11 13 13 29 https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Niels,1890:Pedersen,1890:Rasmussen Above U106 definitely Danish and definitely traveled over to East Anglican as shown by; https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/antiquity/article/people-of-the-british-isles-project-and-viking-settlement-in-england/54E19CAFF9AC2BEB39EAEC826BEDBC63 https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/7a4c/5dba342577158a33410cfafaf0eae3e8540c.pdf https://www.peopleofthebritishisles.org/ My Ewald/Elwald-Ellot/Ellwood name traveled over, as Anglo-Saxon word ‘wald’ evolved into ‘wold’ then the English ‘wood’ for FOREST. About two out of three of the Gresham with variants carry these twelve markets with is indicative of Proto-Germanic-Anglo-Danish migration across the sea, which many people would agree with an even the People of the British Isles a well done with excellent Genetic sampling has done. Is FTDNA after profits they certainly have not shown to be very good searches, or of knowledge of how to apply Y-DNA to genealogical family migration. Houston you have a problem.

Mark Elliott

March 13 @ 10:13pm

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March 13 @ 8:39pm

The daughter can be chief if son turns it down. CLAN ELLIOT https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/The-daughter-can-be-chief-if-son-turns-it-down-of-chief-Margaret-Eliott.jpg https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/The-Elliot-Clan-by-Newcastleton-Primary-School-Scots-Language-Project-2018-1.mp4 https://elwald.com/whats-an-elliott-of-clan-elliot/

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March 12 @ 12:06pm

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March 12 @ 11:26am

https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3517068?dpr=2&fit=max&h=305&w=590 https://www.peopleofthebritishisles.org/ https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/7a4c/5dba342577158a33410cfafaf0eae3e8540c.pdf https://www.genealogieonline.nl/en/genealogy-heynen/P13556.php https://www.geni.com/people/Lord-Nicholas-de-Stuteville-Lord-of-Stuteville/6000000001745092033 https://www.genealogieonline.nl/en/genealogy-heynen/P11949.php https://gw.geneanet.org/pierfit?lang=en&pz=hedwige&nz=de+babenberg&ocz=0&p=hugh+de+liddell&n=wake https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C9683103 https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/1095/?name=_STUTEVILLE&name_x=1_1&fh=400&fsk=MDsxOTsyMjA-61-&pgoff=11 https://fabpedigree.com/s062/f375094.htm Excluded are; Wiki and Wikitree which did not meet the standards of the above links.

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March 12 @ 5:42am

https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3516729?dpr=2&fit=max&h=445&w=590 https://elwald.com/ftdna-denmark/ https://gorrenberry.com/ftdna-denmark/ https://named.publicprofiler.org/ https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/ECS-Daniel-group-history-1.png https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Gresham-Grisham-Grissom-12-marker-matches-MSE.jpg https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Daniel-Elliot-Salem-1692-testimony.jpg https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/A6724.jpg https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/finch/activity-feed https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/gresham-grissom/about/background https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/2479712?dpr=2&fit=max&h=302&w=590

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March 11 @ 12:47pm

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March 11 @ 6:26pm

Birge is American, likely in Europe for Barge; France, England, Germany. https://forebears.io/surnames/birge https://forebears.io/surnames/barge https://forebears.io/surnames/burge William Burge b. 1773 Virginia https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Barge Hamburg could likely go onto Burge of East Anglia. https://named.publicprofiler.org/ hotspot, indicative of Burge (East Anglia). David Birge, you know your family better then I do. Above is just another view. Yorkshire, and surnames known to be found in the Dane Law region. Have Rush line from Suffolk East Anglia to Virginia in 1635. https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/2489985?dpr=2&fit=max&h=244&w=590

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March 10 @ 11:33pm

(except Reiver map) https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3515516?dpr=2&fit=max&h=302&w=590 https://www.google.com/search?q=FTDNA+Elliott&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwjPiqD00pHoAhVjAp0JHf1tA_QQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=FTDNA+Elliott&gs_l=img.3..35i39.75480.77839..78091…0.0..0.148.754.4j3……0….1..gws-wiz-img…….0i24.7DhwPbVcJlA&ei=i3FoXo-ZA-OE9PwP_duNoA8&bih=765&biw=1600&rlz=1C1AVNA_enUS566US566

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March 10 @ 3:32pm

https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3515028?dpr=2&fit=max&h=339&w=590 https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3209854?dpr=2&fit=max&h=607&w=590 https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3422016?dpr=2&fit=max&h=266&w=590 https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Edward-McDonald-helped-Johnston.jpg https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Gresham-Grisham-Grissom-12-marker-matches-MSE.jpg https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3421015?dpr=2&fit=max&h=448&w=590 https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:John,1890:Jon,1890:Jonson,1890:Jonsson,1890:Jonsdotter,1890:Johnson https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/FTDNA-Johnson-but-not-Johnston-or-Johnstone.jpg https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Clan-Johnston.mp4

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March 10 @ 6:02am

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March 10 @ 6:01am

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March 9 @ 10:25am

How family members are being successful at family history; 1. The family knows best. Those which do not realize ‘The Family Knows Best’, and circumvent the family, makes a huge amount of difficulties by causing the true genealogists to correct the information back to what the family first said. 2. Listen to others, especially of the opposite sex, to make family. Though you may not think that which is coming from the opposite sex correct, the answers to what you said is reflective one and can with little skill decipher from the language, needed family information. 3. Do not in a family search, get rid of the in-laws, though you may want to. FTDNA is not a genealogical site because they are allowing administrators to kick out the in-laws. 4. Families fight, and likely not just one answer is correct, in the history. Families in their research seem to aim their research into specific region of research, giving to each other in the same family answers seemly conflicting, but so close they both come out as being correct. 5. If the family’s history is done properly one does not get to pick their ancestors. Self explanatory.

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March 8 @ 6:35pm

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March 6 @ 9:52am

Harvard style of history is symbolized by their Puritanical style of witch hangings, of people speaking out accurately like my many great reporting an accuser saying ‘they did it for sport’. Though the witch gets hung acknowledging and correcting is not a part of Harvard style of history, a method which scientists use. In order to be a genetic scientist searching for errors and making corrections in genes is needed. To be a genetic genealogists searching for errors in family history, and genetics is needed. Harvard style of history has a tendency to hang without correction genetic genealogists which are practicing their profession with proper accuracy.

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March 6 @ 8:23am

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6 hours ago

https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3507749?dpr=2&fit=max&h=284&w=590 https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/M269-to-U106-migration-Michael-Hammer.jpg https://gorrenberry.com/robert-elwald-clan-elliot-chief-1/ https://named.publicprofiler.org/ https://archive.org/details/chroniclesofarms00arms/page/31/mode/2up Elwald Elliot of Croyland/Crowland https://www.google.com/maps/place/Crowland,+Peterborough,+UK/@52.6735453,-0.1751426,15z/ https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Gresham-Grisham-Grissom-12-marker-matches-MSE.jpg https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/antiquity/article/people-of-the-british-isles-project-and-viking-settlement-in-england/54E19CAFF9AC2BEB39EAEC826BEDBC63

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8 hours ago

https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3507459?dpr=2&fit=max&h=650&w=590 Let’s see how this goes Michael Hammer PhD Geneticist. At least they put that border between New Mexico and Arizona. Know how good the math of Arizona can be; Google ‘AZ photo radar’. Dad, Loren Spencer Elliott at 90, looks pretty good on the Mighty Mo. Note; Star Valley, AZ no longer has photo radar. ‘Hammer’, was one of the names a relative of mine was offered on his birth certificate but he discarded it. The math which FTDNA utilizes in TIP calculation, starts with input of a single significant digit of 30 yrs/gen then get an answer to the nearest hundredth of a percent. Does FTDNA really know their math? Like Hitler would put young men in charge, to determine lives, Harvard put judges in charged to determine witches, and hung them by silencing. Of course my Y-DNA at a proven branch point of two sons, can not be correct be confirmed correct by Harvard which does only confirms correctness upon themselves in their places of hanging witches, not on one as granddad which was correct in his analogy. Harvard history is a genetic superior race analogy, which does not confirm proper use of math, and science, but only Nazi type of uniformity on ‘status quo’ history. Harvard history is a genetic superior race analogy, which does not confirm proper use of math, and science, but only Nazi type of uniformity on ‘status quo’ history. It is people which are spending a lot of money on not needed Big-Y so Harvard witch hanging types can turn them into lab rats, and have admins on site if they do not like what they are saying hang them as witches in the same manner young boys of Hitler’s squad could sent Jews to the gas chambers. Doing my family history, and putting through my Y-DNA, though my genocide of matches during Border Pacification is being filtered, this time these above words in pieces have already been spoken with the accuracy of Daniel Elliot refugee of Harvard Puritans of the Salem Witch Trials. https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Armstrong-Border-Pacification-Genocide-BBC.mp4 https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Scottish-Clans-12-18-Clan-ArmstrongConverted-split-002731-002800-201704011351196358.mp4 https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/3465588-1024×933.jpg https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Border-genocide-filtered-out-of-the-FTDNA-Y-DNA-12-marker-match-map..jpg https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Armstrong-Elliott-Johnston-Fermanagh-surname-distribution-map-.png https://www.historyireland.com/early-modern-history-1500-1700/sheep-stealers-from-the-north-of-england-the-riding-clans-in-ulster-by-robert-bell/ Documentation for the Johnston of Ulster. Been kicked out of FTDNA Johnson blog. https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/FTDNA-Johnson-but-not-Johnston-or-Johnstone.jpg https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3405404?dpr=2&fit=max&h=481&w=590 https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Reiver-marrying-native-Irish-of-County-Fermanagh-Ulster-Ireland..jpg https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Anderson-Johnson-Polish-Germany-to-Ulster-Johnstone-Scotland-Johnston-Ulster.jpg https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3431267?dpr=2&fit=max&h=467&w=590 https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Edward-McDonald-helped-Johnston.jpg https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Clan-Johnston.mp4

3/4/2020 MSE

How family members are being successful at family history;

Brigham ‘This is the Place’ genealogy with DNA applied

The family knows best.

Listen to others, especially of the opposite sex, to make family.

Do not in a family search, get rid of the in-laws, though you may want to.

Families fight, and likely not just one answer is correct, in the history.

If the family’s history is done properly one does not get to pick their ancestors.

THE FAMILY KNOWS BEST.

When a person lets say MrX, on FTDNA MrX surname blog, says something about his family tree, and MZ says he is a liar, because MZ administrates the FTDNA blog, who is most likely correct MrX or MZ?

LISTEN TO OTHERS, ESPECIALLY OF THE OPPSOITE SEX, TO MAKE FAMILY.

People need another point of view, and the family tree can not exist without males and females, because that is what it takes to make a family tree.

DO NOT IN A FAMILY SEARCH, GET RID OF THE IN-LAWS, THOUGH YOU MAY WANT TO.

For instance the males carry the Y-DNA. To put a female MZ, in charge of FTDNA blogs MrA-MrY, with the power of kicking people out of the blog anyone she likes to is that genealogy or Corporate Profit Making?

Can a person be kicked out of their family tree?

FAMILIES FIGHT, AND LIKELY NOT JUST ONE ANSWER IS CORRECT, IN THE HISTORY.

Say two people of the same family have a disagreement on a point. One of the two researchers the other person’s position, and find it to be correct also. The other does not. Who has gained knowledge of the family tree, and is acting in the manner of a true family historian/genealogist?

IF THE FAMILY’S HISTORY IS DONE PROPERLY ONE DOES NOT GET TO PICK THEIR ANCESTORS.

Needs no commit.

Family History as opposed to History, to identify individuals, has to utilize more documentation on the subject manner then History alone. When one goes back thirty generations, that generational line mathematically has more than a billion autosomal DNA ancestors, but only one female mtDNA ancestor, and one male Y-DNA ancestor, which all it takes to produce the next generation. For me to be kicked off of FTDNA blogs shows that FTDNA is a corporate money making machine and does not care anything about families except in profit dollars, for putting they say to much online. It is minute, in amount, it is the others which are not putting enough online which is where the complaint should be made.

Mark Elliott

3 hours ago

There is an excellent team of lady genealogical geneticists, out of Brigham Young University, which posted the above autosomal chart from a presentation in Salt Lake City, Utah, USA. Meet the Your DNA Guide Team https://www.yourdnaguide.com/about

Mark Elliott

3 hours ago

http://salem.lib.virginia.edu/n106.html

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4 hours ago

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-8979-6QBV?i=22&cc=2061550&cat=74325

Note familysearch.org which catalogs; FHL Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Utah, and the FHC Family History Center, Mesa, Arizona. Religious, which has to me shown genealogical superiority to corporate, because they are not distorting their mathematics for corporate profits, utilize higher standards in privacy, base on research where forms of DNA are added as tools.

Mark Elliott

6 hours ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jocelyn_Bell_Burnell

Stephanie Ray, Do not allow this lady from Armagh County, Ulster, Ireland cause you any problems, though she was schooled at a Quaker girls school in York (The Mount School, a Quaker girls’ boarding school in York, England ‘Wikipedia’). With the Bauld Buccleuch in 1596, our families were in on a rescue of Kinmont Willie Armstrong. By Robert Bell; ‘Sheep stealers from the north of England’: the Riding Clans in Ulster by Robert Bell Published in 20th Century Social Perspectives, Early Modern History (1500–1700), Features, Gaelic Ireland, Issue 4 (Winter 1994), Volume 2 https://www.historyireland.com/early-modern-history-1500-1700/sheep-stealers-from-the-north-of-england-the-riding-clans-in-ulster-by-robert-bell/ http://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/HISTORY_IRELAND_Winter1994_pgs.25-29.pdf

Robert Bell has published books on Ulster Surnames, which is available at The Family History Library in Utah, and Family History Center in Arizona. Salt Lake City, Utah, USA, Family History Library, Church of Latter Saints The book of Ulster surnames by Robert Bell – FHL SLC, UT https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/403797?availability=Family%20History%20Library Mesa, Arizona, USA, Family History Center, Church of Latter Saints The book of Scots-Irish family names by Robert Bell – FHC Mesa, AZ

https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/2796758?availability=Mesa%20Arizona%20FamilySearch%20Library Sincerely, Mark Stephen Elliott

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7 hours ago

Marke Ellot became Mark Elliott https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tullykelter_Castle

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Yesterday at 8:39am

https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/2346147?availability=Mesa%20Arizona%20FamilySearch%20Library “The Church of Later Day Saints genealogical library in Mesa, Arizona did do a good job of showing where my surname ‘Mark’ came from, but I felt certain that ‘Spencer’ would be a surname included in the information dad contributed. He was living in Mesa, Arizona, USA at the time and I was with him when he contributed the information.” Know a Wade Kotter, BS, anthropoly and archælogy 1972-1978, Brigham Young University, Provo, Utah, USA, the university of The Latter Day Saints. Influential in me leaving the FTDNA German blog. Utah has good schools in education, and am a graduate of a team in-state rival school, the University of Utah, Salt Lake City, Utah (State of Utah school), where the Family History Library of the Church of Later Day Saints is located. https://www.familysearch.org/en/ December 1979, B.S. mining engineering, University of Wyoming, summer 72, B.S. economics, with graduate studies at Indiana University, through the Department of Mathematics, in the eighties. Uniformitarianism GEOLOGY WRITTEN BY: The Editors of Encyclopaedia Britannica https://www.britannica.com/science/uniformitarianism “Uniformitarianism, in geology, the doctrine suggesting that Earth’s geologic processes acted in the same manner and with essentially the same intensity in the past as they do in the present and that such uniformity is sufficient to account for all geologic change. This principle is fundamental to geologic thinking and underlies the whole development of the science of geology.” That the one which utilizes the math, in his analysis is taken as a liar. Nicolas Copernicus, which society finally believes.

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7 hours ago

https://elwald.com/james-whitley-spencer-tree-dna/ https://elwald.com/almas-lorens-mom-dad-corner-franklin-rush-spencer-genealogy/

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Yesterday at 5:15pm

This is an example of genealogical conflict. Came to the conclusion; refer to him genealogically as James W. Spencer, because he did not basically use his middle name. One family can refer to the “W.” as Whitney, and the other as Whitley. He’s my father’s mother’s (Ilah) father, and has R-U106>R-L48.

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Records; https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/2346147?availability=Mesa%20Arizona%20FamilySearch%20Library Family history of Miles & Maria (Purnell) Mark : of Virginia, Maryland, Kentucky, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Illinois, Iowa and other points west Statement of Responsibility: compiled by Loren S. Elliott Authors: Elliott, Loren S. (Main Author) Format: Books/Monographs Language: English Publication: [S.l. : s.n.], 1994 Physical: unpaged : geneal charts, ports. Notes Ancestors & descendants includes families of Barnes, Elliott, Fogleman, Hoover, Keenan, Lawrence, Manning, Mark, McCleary, McGinnis, McCarty, Moore, Nichols, Patrick, Sackett, Schofield, Signor, Terwilliger and With. Currently unavailable. View this catalog record in WorldCat for other possible copy locations Copies Call NumberLocationCollection/ShelfAvailability 929.273 M34e Mesa Arizona FamilySearch Library http://arizonabeehive.com/the-mesa-familysearch-library-continues-to-invite-all-to-come-and-find-your-ancestors/ Off-site Storage The Church of Later Day Saints genealogical library in Mesa, Arizona did do a good job of showing where my first-forename ‘Mark’ came from, but I felt certain that ‘Spencer’ would be a surname included in the information dad contributed. He was living in Mesa, Arizona, USA at the time and I from Gallup, New Mexico, USA was with him when he contributed the information.

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7 hours ago

https://elwald.com/james-whitley-spencer-tree-dna/ https://elwald.com/almas-lorens-mom-dad-corner-franklin-rush-spencer-genealogy/

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8 hours ago

https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Mark-and-Mark-S-Elliott-1.png https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Mark-Elliott-farm-Mt-Ayr.png

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15 hours ago

Genealogy is for family.

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16 minutes ago

FAMILY HISTORY IS ABOUT FAMILY

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/21370631/louisa-elliott https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/16772108/william-fletcher-mark https://iowagravestones.org/gs_view.php?id=710859 https://fr.findagrave.com/memorial/197375696/james-r_-elliott

Louisa Mark Elliott, is the oldest stone in the Elliott family plot Rose Hill Cementary, Mt. Ayr (Scottish writer Robert Burns home place), Ringgold County, Iowa.

http://www.iagenweb.org/ringgold/obitht001/obit_e-obit_g/obit-elliottlouisa.html http://iagenweb.org/ringgold/obitht001/obit_e-obit_g/obit-elliottrevsa.html http://www.iagenweb.org/ringgold/obitht001/obit_e-obit_g/obit_elliottlorenspencer.htm http://iagenweb.org/ringgold/obitht001/obit_e-obit_g/obit_elliottalmabarna.htm

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3 hours ago

https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Scottish-research-mapping-to-US-reference-8.jpg The co-admin was so bad, he must of chased off the administrator. Argyll Colony, North Carolina Highland Scots Immigration to NC Beginning in 1739 https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/argyll-colony-north-carolina/about Argyll Colony uploads – Gorrenberry https://gorrenberry.com/argyll-colony-uploads/ Mar 31, 2019 – Argyll Colony; Cape Fear NC, name locality map. Above is from Family History Center, Church of Latter Day Saints, Mesa, Arizona. From Gallup, New Mexico, USA, it was acquired, when visiting dad in Mesa, when we were at the library. Dad and I liked to partner in American Contract Bridge League, bridge Tempe, Arizona, and it is liking on way back from a bridge game. Western Conference Top Masterpoint Holders ACBL District 17 Sept 2011 32. Louis Quiggle, Phoenix AZ …………………….. 12,336.75 42. Rosalind Quiggle, Phoenix AZ ………………… 10,689.20 75. Loren Elliott, Mesa AZ ……………………………… 8800.47 Could remember in Tempe, AZ partnering dad, with the Quiggle, playing the opponent the Quiggle, with less than 70 master points. Gallup, New Mexico, USA does not have duplicate bridge about 200 km/ 130 miles away in Albuquerque, New Mexico. http://www-personal.umich.edu/~copyrght/wca/District%2017.pdf Dad played bridge, and it seems that I do computers and genealogy to keep my mine active. Basic rules I found helpful in family research are; The family knows best. Listen to others, especially of the opposite sex, to make family. Do not in a family search, get rid of the in-laws, though you may want to. Families fight, and likely not just one answer is correct. If genealogy is done properly one does not get to pick their ancestors.

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https://nvk.entless.org/mapbox/1890:kj%C3%A4r,1890:kjer,1890:kjaer https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/antiquity/article/people-of-the-british-isles-project-and-viking-settlement-in-england/54E19CAFF9AC2BEB39EAEC826BEDBC63 https://images.theconversation.com/files/75269/original/image-20150318-2502-hwp2kw.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&q=45&auto=format&w=1000&fit=clip Am elk (moose) of woods. In order to have an elk (moose) of woods, there must be an elk (moose) of the thickets, which basically the name Kjaer means thickets and symbolized by an elk (moose). Have Y-DNA similarities with them.

Mark Elliott

July 11 @ 10:28am

https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Mark?iframe=ysnp Want to thank the admin Stephanie Ray again for her support. A lot of graphics are being used of this FTDNA Yorkshire blog. Am U106, R-L48 is downstream. Spencer family of dad, Loren Spencer (mom’s maiden) Elliott are L48. Smith is an mtDNA name, of England, old Yorkshire then Ireland near Dublin. When the Irish went from Gaelic towards the English, some, or should I say a lot used the surname Smith. Sincerely, Mark Stephen (Slavic, mom’s fahter’s name) Elliott

Matt Kitching

June 20 @ 1:59am

Hi all, I can trace my line back to Knayton and then back to Old Malton.. I used the mapping tool that Mark uses and hey presto the big red dot is bang on the Malton area. Cheers, Matt

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Mark Elliott

June 21 @ 9:34am

Excellent. I am very ignorant of the Kitching family (period). Though I have utilized example after example, it is the mechanics, I am trying to instruct on how one finds family. Now it seems success is showing, and this is a manner of integrating DNA with other sources. Basic rules I found helpful in family research are; 1. The family knows best. 2. Listen to others, especially of the opposite sex, to make family. 3. Do not in a family search, get rid of the in-laws, though you may want to. 4. Families fight, and likely not just one answer is correct, in the history. 5. If genealogy is done properly one does not get to pick their ancestors. With DNA being introduced it is just a tool, integrating it with others tools, increases the level of accuracy. One of the most key successful tools, I have utilized, is when family presents me with information, though believe it is completely incorrect, in order to conclude so try to prove it through research it is incorrect. You, would be surprise, of how much information passed from family which is thought to be incorrect, when it is tested out found to be correct. To me genealogy is and art of using outside information, that from family comes first, to look beyond oneself, to puzzle out a family tree. Dad, found the same to be true. After all family knows best.

Mark Elliott

June 21 @ 10:00am

Do not forget putting surname into a mapping program as a tool; https://www.google.com/maps/place/Kitching+Rd,+Peterlee,+UK/@54.590068,-1.574478,8.81z https://www.google.com/maps/place/Kitching+Grove,+Darlington+DL3+0SL,+UK/@53.9157505,-1.4536743,8.06z/ https://www.google.com/maps/place/Malton,+UK/@54.1325494,-1.1809788,8.79z/ Name could be a location name given; https://dsl.ac.uk/entry/dost/kechin Kechin, Ketching, Keichin(g, n. Also: kechine, -yn(e, -ene, -ing, -yng, -eing; ketchyne; keicheing, keitcheine. [Var. of Kichin(g n. The change of vowel may be parallel to that (ĭ > ē) in Chekin, Mekill, Sekir, etc. ME. (midl.) has kechene (14th c.), kechyn, where the e is probably to be differently explained.] 1. A kitchen, the place, usu. in a house or building, where food is cooked. Also fig. in the wormis keiching = the grave. In quot. 1496, appar. a field-kitchen. Would suspect, Kitching Grove, Darlington. Grove with a kitchen, north of Darlington. Try the name Kitchingham (Kitchen-home) in http://named.publicprofiler.org/ For Yorkshire also “de Kitching”, and “Kitchington”, note “-ham”, “de_”, and “-ton”, as added tools for Yorkshire for surname searching. Google books is a good locality to test name spellings in.

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Matt Kitching

July 1 @ 5:28am

I also know I have Y DNA affinity with two other surnames, Rathmell and Parrott and these surnames also both plot well over the same area. I can trace the earliest male ancestor of each family back to a 60 mile a side triangle with one apex at Malton in 1773, the others being Grassington also in 1773 and Wroot in 1806.

Mark Elliott

June 26 @ 9:19am

Should be spelled Stephen, male’s version of Stephanie.

Mark Elliott

June 26 @ 8:18am

https://forebears.io/surnames?q=Murphy When the Gaelic Anglicize into the Scottish-English, Yorkshire names such as Smith and Murphy, from western England migrated into eastern Ireland, and were adopted, when the Irish Gaelics, adopted the English language. Dad married mom, guess the Elliott in County Fermanagh, Ulster Ireland married the Murphy there also.

Mark Elliott

June 24 @ 11:30am

Stephanie Ray, Thank you. For mom.

Mark Elliott

June 13 @ 11:28am

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Armitage,+Rugeley,+UK/@52.7225519,-1.8770758,12.21z/

Mark Elliott

June 13 @ 8:47am

In French; L’abbaye de Préaux. L’abbaye de Lire. L’abbaye de Saint-Etienne de Caen. L’abbaye de Troarn. Le prieuré de Brieweton. L’abbaye d’Aunai. Le prieuré du Plessis. Le même. Hugues Fils d’Osbert. Les religieuses de Lisieux. L’abbaye de Saint-André de Goufler. Hugues de Laci. https://archive.org/stream/recueildesactesd00grea/recueildesactesd00grea_djvu.txt Note; Eliot (north France) + Ellot (Angus, Scotland) = Elliot note also that “-ton” of Briewe’-ton’ is frequently found in Yorkshire. ‘Osbert’ is dominately, used in northern France as a surname; https://forebears.io/surnames/osbert Mainly Normandy. It is a Norman, name. Le abbaye, The Abbey. Le prieuré, The Parish. de ‘of’. Fils d’, son of. Family arrived in The Colony of Massachusetts (Scots-English speaking Anglican; Gaelic Catholics, sent to plantations in the West Indies), in the 1650’s, name was Daniel Ellot. John Eliot, Puritan of the ministry, French named moved into southwest England of the St. German, ‘Eliot’, apostle to the American Indian, came in on Mayflower, c.1620. Name ‘Ellot’ ‘transported as slaves’ from Ulster, about 1650, Scots Royalists (Anglican, Charles II supporters, sided with Gaelic Scots-Irish Catholic) POW or the UK, Cromwellian Civil War, was changed to ‘Elliot’, by the influences of the French, ‘Eliot’. Before time of separation from England, 1776, the American Revolution, a ‘t’ was added to the name, which made it ‘Elliott’. 25 April 2013‎ Crusoe8181 Crusoe8181 moved page Peregrine Eliot, “10th Earl of St Germans to Peregrine Eliot” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peregrine_Eliot,_10th_Earl_of_St_Germans And, I had to be descended from a notorious thief of Liddesdale, called Clementis Hobs. Classic and Contemporary PoetryRHYMING DICTIONARY SEARCH AGAINST [OR, AGANIS] THE THIEVES OF LIDDESDALE, by RICHARD MAITLAND “There is ane, callit Clement’s Hob, Fa ilk puir wife reivis her wob, And all the lave, Whatever they have: The devil resave therefor his gob!” http://www.poetryexplorer.net/poem.php?id=10104291 At least with thieves there are records. (Clementis Hob; ie Clement Crozier’s sister’s son Robert Elliott) He had a brother; Andrew (Dand) ‘Dand the Cow’ Burgess of Selkirk. Father; Andrew (Dand) ‘Dand the Cowie’ was implicated in the slaughter of a ‘Hugh Douglas’, the Scott family hid him away in Teviotdale. https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Andrew-Dand-the-Cowie-son-Andrew-Dand-the-Cow.jpg When he came to visit Clementis Hob, in Gorrenberry, just west of The Hermitage Castle, the family made up this story about a ‘Cowie’ to protect him. Hope people will not hold it against me what my family did five hundred years ago; https://books.google.com/books?id=wGJNDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA166&dq=Cowie+Gorrenberry&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiA89uA7ebiAhUKCKwKHWLzCHgQ6AEIKjAA#v=onepage&q=Cowie%20Gorrenberry&f=false When the Cowie, and the Gorrenberry line supposively died off, the Y-DNA was in New England. THE ELLIOTS in SELKIRK http://home.kpn.nl/pu6qs9/ellot_clan.htm (follows the elliots of Wolfelee) In 1688 said to be ‘of the ancient kind'(i.e. descended from Redheugh) James Ellot of Bridgehaugh stated to be a “a brother’s son of the Laird of Horsleyhill”. Disentangling all the Elliots concerned to their exact descent and relationship would be a major undertaking. Instead all the Ellots recorded as BURGESSES, BAILLIES and COMMISIONERS of SELKIRK have been listed. DATES RANGING BETWEEN Andrew (alias Dandie, or Dandie of the Cow) 21/3/1565 – 2/5/1591

Mark Elliott

June 6 @ 6:01pm

http://borderbrighams.weebly.com/origins.html https://www.houseofnames.com/brigham-family-crest Brigham History, Family Crest & Coats of Arms – House of Names The surname Brigham was first found in Yorkshire where they held a family seat from very ancient times, some say well before the Norman Conquest and the arrival of Duke William at Hastings in 1066 A.D. ‘de’/of Brigham a place name becomes surname Brigham.

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Mark Elliott

June 2 @ 2:30pm

http://named.publicprofiler.org https://www.google.com/maps/place/Brigham,+Driffield+YO25+8JW,+UK/@54.2033302,-1.4898224,6.99z/ This is for the people of the Later Day Saints, which are researching for ancesters. The people of County Yorkshire, UK which realize that a lot of their surnames are from place names in the region such as ‘Brigham’. The people of the north end of Danish Northumbria, which ended up in the Border Region of Scotland, when in 1320 a border was placed between Scotland, and England. And, the people who came over from Germany-Denmark to Danish Anglia. With a name like Brigham Young, you must also be a Border Scot.

Mark Elliott

May 28 @ 2:27pm

From FTDNA Germany 5/28/2019 JOHANNES WEYERS @mark !! We do not always have to prove the origin of the word “the” or ” German ” . Their are lots of origins of documents that are often conflicting . We all try to scratch and find those of value and in the process too often even prove ourselves wrong . Like Mark Elliott JOHANNES WEYERS In order for Elwald to be of the Fairbiarn I-M253 (Fair Bear) story in the genealogy of the children of the bear, ‘wolf’, and ‘elk’, the ‘elk’ can not be a big deer. It has to be a ‘moose’, what the English and German call an ‘elk’. Because Elwald is derived from ‘moose of the forest’. Since the ‘american elk’ is only in the forest, the name created a branch, family. The ‘moose’ in English and German ‘elk’, has a branch family in the genealogy of the family tree. It is the ‘moose/elk’ of the thickets and marsh. Never have seen an ‘American elk’ in the marshes-thicket, but have seen an ‘English-German elk’ in the marshes-thicket. Y-DNA by Robert P. Elliott, of our Daniel Elliot, of Salem cluster shows the Ker(r) to be a in the group of the closest matches by surname. https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/2210825?dpr=2&fit=max&h=324&w=590 Image address showing ‘elk’ on the crest of the Kerr arms.; https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQg3I3LAEyX4jy3CdXxqtNcQ7vVeSLUJbvk1h9Uqt37-hXCI3JERg Clan Kerr – Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Kerr Clan Kerr /kɜːr/ ( About this sound listen) is a Scottish clan whose origins lie in the Scottish … The name stems from the Old Norse kjarr which means marsh dweller, and came to Scotland from Normandy, the French settlement of the … (note; the People of British Isles PoBI autosomal DNA study excluding surnames groups, the Anglo-Saxon, of the ‘elk of the forest’ DNA, with the Norman DNA, of the ‘elk of the marsh’, are in the same DNA grouping.) The Ker(Cessford, Duke of Roxborghe of Floors Castle near Kelso, Scotland), Kerr(Ferniehirst, Chief of Clan Kerr a Tory, Lady Buccleuch), and Carr(adult accuser in the Salem Witch trials). Carr, a lady in this blog brought to my attention, her awards for the DAR Daughters of the American Revolution, and reminded me the pride my family that they took place in “stringing up those Tories”, especially when they laugh at “transporting the Scots as slaves to The Colonies”. https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/SELLING-SCOTS-AS-SLAVES-IS-FUNNY-TO-THE-TORIES-2.mp4?_=1 It was my family being transported, for being Royalists, like the Loyalists to the crown, but ninety years earlier. For me to get the language of my genealogy correct for my particular family is very important, but in order to do proper genealogy you better get it correct for your own family. The only family I basically have to utilize as a model for other families is my own. It is the mechanics which I am trying to teach. Like, the one who has done the genealogy and carries the Y-DNA, is most likely 100% in being correct. Listen to the ladies, ‘the Carr with the DAR awards’, do not kick out the ‘in-laws’, allow for ‘freedom of speech’, something I feel “The Americans”, need to learn from “The Europeans”, because they “The Europeans”, are beating “The Americans”, at their own game. Of course there are in America people from Europe including the UK.

Mark Elliott

May 20 @ 1:11pm

https://www.GEDmatch.com Frank Warner, (group may be interest to this posting made to FTDNA Germany) A269034 Mark Stephen Elliott (lawismarkellot) Andrew ‘Dand’ Daniel ELLIOT GEDmatch Ref: 9087233 : I324 Born: Gorrenberry, Roxburghshire, Scotland Died: Tullykelter, Fermanagh, Ulster, Ireland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tullykelter_Castle Family rode with Armstrong. Neil (Gaelic) Alden (Anglo) Armstrong (Scottish; Armestrang-army strong of Scotland). Claims Langholm, Scotland the home of (Bauld) Buccleuch Estates. At 50th anniversity of Neil putting first step on moon; Ancestral Home of the Clan Armstrong Press Release; Gilnockie Tower – Anniversary Weekend. https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Gilnockie-Tower-Anniversary-Weekend-Press-Release-Short.pdf http://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/HISTORY_IRELAND_Winter1994_pgs.25-29.pdf

Mark Elliott

April 28 @ 11:19am

http://named.publicprofiler.org/ Paul Farrar February 26 @ 1:58pm There is a Farrar/Farrow project on FTDNA https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Farrar%20-%20Farrow?iframe=yresults Farrel in Gaelic means barrel. Note spell correction Farra above should be Farrar.

Mark Elliott

April 28 @ 10:47am

ancestry.com updated comparison. Same autosomal DNA used in all three examples.

Mark Elliott

April 28 @ 10:19am

Ancestry.com older comparison shows localities of mother’s folks. https://www.google.com/search?q=peace+on+the+border&rlz=1C1AVNA_enUS566US566&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwij_L7zsfXhAhUPTKwKHaO2AqAQ_AUIDigB&biw=1280&bih=568#imgrc=n5ZrDD-wGaTTjM:

Mark Elliott

April 28 @ 10:03am

myOrigins Walkthrough – Family Tree DNA https://www.familytreedna.com/learn/user-guide/family…myftdna/walkthrough/ myOrigins is a feature of our Family Finder test. This feature provides you with a percentile breakdown of the Genetic Populations to which your autosomal DNA .. Garrett Hellenthal – The Genetic History of the United Kingdom: the POBI project Using ‘autosomal DNA’. Hellenthal (like Hellenthal ‘bright locality’ Germany; a place name in Germany). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ANNHMzmxlI PoBI Genetics https://www.peopleofthebritishisles.org/population-genetics

Craig Foss

April 7 @ 2:43pm

Hi, Thanks for allowing me to join this group. My name is Craig Foss and I live in New Zealand. I am R-PF76410 on FTDNA and Z41150 on “The Big tree”. My fathers line, Foss comes from the York area, but prior to that we are not sure. We are also unsure if the Devon Foss line is linked to us. Look forward to your thoughts. Cheers/

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Mark Elliott

April 10 @ 9:57pm

Foss is a name of a river, running north of York, Yorkshire. The name foss indicates the river has waterfalls in Norwegian . http://www.yorkshiredalesriverstrust.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/River-Foss-catchment-map.png This region of Yorkshire is noted for Scandinavian names being apart of Danish Northumbria at one time. The Devon Foss is on the coast very south part of Devonshire. Could be a later by Viking, from the Danish region which named the River Foss going north of York, and likely your surname may have evolved from. In this group finding many surnames which evolve from place names. In Devonshire, likely from and ancient Roman road called the Foss-way, from which the name is derived. http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Gazetteer/Periods/Roman/Topics/Engineering/roads/Britain/_Texts/CODROM/7*.html (html needs to be included)

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Craig Foss

April 10 @ 10:29pm

Thanks Mark, although I am not clear? So there are also two Foss Rivers?? I had no idea. So the York Foss line/families (probably associated with the River Foss(e) may have Scandanavian heritage. The Devon Foss line/families (possibly also from scandinavin-viking heritage). So the two Foss lines may be related but only after going back to Scandinavian/viking roots? And The Foss Way actually links Lincoln/York with Devon/Devonshire?

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Mark Elliott

April 11 @ 10:46pm

In Devon, it is a Roman Road referred to as Foss-way. The time of Roman roads is previous to surname adoption. This road seems to travel through the region of Devon surname Foss. In Yorkshire there is a River Foss north of York. So Devon is a Roman road named Foss, which would give place name from the road of Foss, and Yorkshire has a river name. Foss north of York which is felt the place where your surname is more likely from. Foss is a Norwegian word for waterfalls, and it seems that the Foss River Yorkshire is noted to have waterfalls, and maybe since Scandinavian names are common for the region the river received its name from having waterfalls.

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