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Brother German

Though in the past defined brother german, as half brother; it puts a light on things meaning children of the same parentage.

Given;

appendix Elliot shield

The Ulster and Stobs family are of the same parentage.

Horseleyhill venn line name sharing

Horsliehill 1574 Cavers crest

S. Gilberti Ellot de Horslihill seal crest

Though Gilbert is born of Redheugh, and recorded as the son of Robert, he is actually the son of Gavin of Stobs, and Jean Scot.

In the case of Dand Ellot of Braidley being Martin of Braidley brother’s son. Brother in this case is figurative. Martin, and Dand’s father were not german brothers. It is likely that this Dand of Braidley was of the Gorrenberry Elwald/Ellot family.

Mark Elliott    6/1/2014

Basically tweaks were needed;

Horseleyhill Ellot tree Dand Andrew

GFS Elliot Braidley family tree Dand Martin

grayne of Martin Ellot of Bradley

Horseleyhill Ellot

Martin Braidley SCOTTISH ARMS

Martin's Gibb Elliot

Robert William Dand-Andro Ellot Horseleyhill (2)

sons of Martin and of his brother

This puts William, Robert and Andrew (Dand) with first wife, and Gavin, and Archibald with second wife, and brings into question of a Gilbert (Gib, not to be Gilbert of Redheugh/Stobs but likely uncle). This would give reason for Gilbert of Stobs/Redheugh to receive name from uncle.

Work a thought still needs to be done on above but shows that Gilbert could be a Horseleyhill name.

Brother’s son to Martin of Braidley, more means brethren, which these would be.

Mark S. Elliott   6/1/2014  

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