Gilbert of Horseliehill;
Described;
Looks like Redheugh arms;
William of Horseliehill seal;
Feel it lookes like three stag head’s so drew them that way.
Two stars or stags?
Archibald of Goranberry connected to Cavers, but shows a level of education, and felt is Archibald Ellot (Kene; wise), felt to be younger brother to Gavin of Stobs, Gilbert’s stepfather, and half brother (brother german) to William of Horsliehill.
Elwalde are of Cavers, pre-name to Ellot.
Elwalde of Cavers which Elwald became Ellot.
William Douglas half brother (brother german) of Archibald Douglas;
These are lands of the Elwald/Ellot surrounding the Hermitage Castle.
These lands in Northumbria previous to Scotland belonged to John Wake, of Liddel, and Cottingham, East Riding Yorkshire.
It should be noted that the Irish Elliot/Ellot, crest is similar to Stobs;
A name analysis venn diagram shows that the family names are shared accept for Gib (Gilbert), and Dan (Andrew);
Where the family of Stobs, share the names William, Robert, Archibald and Gavin, with the family of Ulster.
Mark Elliott 12/14/2013
Crests, sheids, arms;
German Ewald crest;
Elwald Redheugh crest;
The Elwald Redheugh in circled has a stag’s head. Does anyone see similarities between the German Ewald, and the Redheugh Elwald crests. It should be noted; that German/Anglo-Saxon “wald” stands for forest, and it is felt the tree represents the forest.
In the Ellwood of Elwold/Elwould//Ellwood, most likely migrated to Cumbria from the southeast, and wold meaning wood/woods of lowland Germany. Martin (Elwood/Ellot) was noted to use the name with a single “l”, and it is this name from the border which is felt to migrate on to Ulster.
Elwood, of Cumbria (most popular Ellwood), then of Martin to Ulster.
Kerr crest with stags;
Note any similarities between the Elwood, Kerr, and Wm of Horseleyhill crests?
The Kerr, Scott, and Elwald all seem to utilize the stag as part of their crest.
It show be noted that the 1691 census show that the above three have a Northumbria (England/Scotland) distribution pattern. For Elwald the name Elliot was used, and for Kerr a combo Kerr/Carr name was used to determine approximate distributions.
Example;
Names which my Y-DNA seemed to match, on the east coast centering near York; are Scarborough, N&S Cave, and Gresham.
Towns named Scarborough use stags;
And a part of the Gresham family, has been known to use the stag’s head.
Haven’t though found the Cave town or family utilizing the stag’s head, and feel Cave has French origins.
Mark Elliott 3/28/2014
I believe the stag usage is linked to the British Celtic people of Cumbria “the Carvetii” (“people of the Deer”) that the Roman’s noted as the local tribe around Carlisle to Maryport. The Roman’s referred to Alauna castrum in modern Maryport as “Alauna of the Carvetii”. Also Old Carlisle was know as “Maglona of the Carvetii”. In Roman and Sub-Roman times, Roman auxiliary troops and cavalry from both North Africa (Numidia and Mauretania) and Germany (Raetians and Augusta Gordiana). My ancestors were Laings/Longs of Teviotdale and Dumfries. I carry the North African Y DNA as do some Eliots, Cockburns, Kil/Kirkpatricks, Kerrs, Robinsons/Robsons, and McKees. I too have noticed the stag/deer heads. Even Colquhouns use it (they were Kil/Kirkpatricks originally)… I really think it is a reference to the Carvetii “the people of the Deer” who were part of the Brigantes that the Roman’s knew well.
I am also descended from the Eliots of Redheugh through my Laing ancestors